VF5 Ver.C Akira Combos

You can add these to the Koboku combos. I'll post some more combos later.

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I think there's some others with youhou involved but I don't know them /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Grabbed the Damage values real quick for the ones ZeroEx listed above, in order from top to bottom. Did the combos on Jacky, duno who's the best balance for damage readings.
NH (75) CH (87)
NH (69) CH (81) (Note: There are characters that can Just Ukemi the tail end of this combo)
NH (69) CH (81) (Note: There are characters that can Just Ukemi the tail end of this combo)

Sorry I don't know which characters and weight classes work with what. Can figure it out later if need be.

 

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Is possible on light and some midweight characters for 88 on counterhit. I havent bothered to test on which characters it actually works, but propably most. It is stance-independent and afaik maxdamage out of the StDbPm.

edit:
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Is another open stance combo which supposedly works on all characters up to Akira, but it becomes increasingly difficult the lighter the character is. This is recommended openstance combo on Jacky and Akira because it works without gimmicks and Akira cant just recover this. This does same damage as above combo. On characters lighter than Jacky you need to delay the guardcancel in kick which makes the combo hard.

Theres so much I need to test and comment on...argh.

 

The first one /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif Jeff can do exact recovery to avoid the last hit of DLC ( maybe Wolf too but i'm sure it connects on him ), the Arcadia article says to do yoho instead of DLC for Jeff and Wolf but that don't work so for Jeff I do KNEE instead of DLC.

Here's some more...

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Normal hit it Works on Eileen, Vanessa, Blaze, Pai, Aoi, Lion, Goh, Kage, Jacky and Sarah in any stance. Counter hit it works on Shun, Brad, Lau and Lei any stance. Doesn't work for Akira and the heavyweights.

76 on normal hit, 91 on counter hit. Same damage as /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> KNEE> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

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Only tested on Eileen, normal hit in any stance and does 75 damage normal hit, 90 damage counter hit... can also do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif for 76 nh, 91 ch.

Side crumple> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

Again only tested on Eileen, works in any stance. I did side crumple with OM /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

77 damage... you can also do Side crumple>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif for 78 damage.

I also got side crumple> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif to connect on her for 79 damage but I can rarely do it maybe someone can test this one out. Edit: It needs 1 frame delay for the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

I'll test if the last few combos work on other characters in a bit.

 

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Pai, Sarah, Vanessa,Blaze, Goh, Brad, Kage, Lion and Lau in open stance in addition to what reads on the combo list. (Note: NOT on Shun). Exact recover is not possible for these characters.

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Jeff and Wolf can exact recover and avoid
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ps. Perhaps the combo threads should be stickied so its easier to post comments on combolists.

 

Updated with notes.

46p > 6_pkg > 6_p > dbl palm does work on the characters you mentioned(if your memory still serves you, it was posted before) but its really hard to do consistently as you need to delay the 2nd p.

The combos are my personal 'perfect' combo list with the most reliability/damage for each weight class. There's so many things you can do after a starter. Hence, I will need some time to put it the less damaging and reliable but working combos. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

I've put in the exact recovery notes.

 

updated with youhou > p > p > 43p > dbl palm.

 

I think the combo list should read what is possible and leave consistency to players themselves, really. For completeness' sake. I know the combo is hard and I dont use it myself except possibly on the characters that the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif doesnt work with.

Maybe later we could invent some way to mark certain combos "recommended", Myke wrote about that. But a combo list like this should always be as complete as possible. Well, thats my opinion anyway. Maybe this should be discussed in another forum.

Thanks for editing.

EDIT:

Knee -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> DbPm works on Pai, Eileen, Sarah, AOi and Vanessa in both stances in normal hit (73) and is easier to pull off than the P yoho dbPm combo (that does same damage)

 

Exactly what I thought when I said 'Hence, I will need some time to put it the less damaging and reliable but working combos. '

Any idea if knee > p > p > 43p > dbl palm working on more characters on MC?

 

I tested this morning and didnt have time to go through all characters. Ill try to test when I get back from work.

 

While you are at it, care to shed some light on how u manage to pull it off on Sarah with 'perfect tech' on which has been strongly advocated by you? I can't seem to do it when I casually test it on Sarah.

Thanks

 

No tricks necessary. Just be sharp about it.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~jplaukka/kneecombo2_c.avi

edit: hrm next time I capture joystick commands if its helpful for someone. I capped that vid too quickly.

edit edit: on counterhit knee the combo works on Kage, Lion, Goh, Brad, Blaze and Shun in addition to the lightweights mentioned previously. Both stances, exact recovery not possible. Damage is 86.

 

Ah i get it. It doesnt work on Sarah when you launch her up close with knee.

Thanks for the inputs for 43p combos.

 

Are you sure? in those vids I was pressing forward while doing the knee. I didnt notice anything special in the combo. I normally do knee buffered into a dash, except in a tight framesituation like punishing. I dont know if dash still gives the extra frame of leeway into the input like it used to, but its an old habit.

 

I'm 100% sure. I usually set my ring position to akira's back facing wall so that akira is directly next to CPU.

No wonder i couldn't do it on Sarah. The default position works fine.

Are you saying hold forward while doing knee give better range?

 

Normally yes, but in this case I was referring to the fact that me pressing forward gets Akira to pretty much pointblank range. At least in closed stance. Although it seemed more difficult in the other stance, so it might be related to knee hitting on one active hitframe or the other, whether its the first (close range) or later hitframe (long range) I cannot say.

 

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79 damage, only for Eileen ( max damage, yay ). Works both stances.

 

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Works in both stances, 58 damage (better than ending withh 66kk for those you can't get a 2p refloat on). Seems to work on most characters but i'll let you guys test that...

 

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Closed Stance. With side hit 3K crumple, the combo does 82. OM K crumple does 77. Works on Akira with Tech Rolling on. Currently testing on other characters and in open/closed stances.

Feck, I'm sure it does 91 damage. ^^