VF5FS Easy Throw Escape

I just realize I was doing unnecessary inputs all the time.

 

That 6323G to input cancel the evade is difficult to do in practice. I've been in dojo for the past few days trying to get that to be natural. It's actually really helpful to see this video. Time to practice this now too!

 

Yes, press G first to maintain guard position is necessary.

The old TE method is workable, but the timing is not good against delay throw.

Check out 0:21

 

Since -4 fuzzy is 33G now, he probably just tapped P afterward.

 

I'm not sure I follow what's going on in that video. Can someone explain?

/dumb

Thanks!

 

This is way easier to do in FS than it ever was in vanilla. The window is huge now.

 

Great vid, thank you. Really helpful.

 

So the window for where you can do the TE is kinda large. You can do it at the start of your evade, then buffer the canceled failed evade option select. Or you can do the failed evade option select buffer first then do the Easy TE.

 

If you're in a sideturned position; why would you ever not just hold G and escape the only throw that can come now?

 

I'm pretty sure the tutorial in console FS teaches this too.

 

Yes it does, and now if you have to fuzzy you can use and as input too. That means you can escape a low throw with the yutori system right now, tought the fuzzy is usefull only up to -3 now and you have to cd fuzzy at -4.

 

Hey all. I am new to Virtua Fighter.

While I cannot say that I completely understand the system and guides I've read so far, here are my assumptions. When I first DL'd Final Showdown, I was under the assumption (because I thought I read this somewhere) that somehow, when someone attempts a throw, you can input multiple escapes and if the throw attempt matches that escape, the throw escape will occur. So I thought that if someone tried to throw me with a throw that ended in the direction 6P+G, if I saw my opponents hands come out and quickly entered 4P+G then 6P+G I would get the throw escape. I read somewhere that VF allows you to enter up to three throw break attempts.

While in practice mode, I tried doing this a number of different ways and I could not get it to work. I did see that if you hold down your throw break attempt, the timing of the attempt does not matter and you will get the throw escape. That is a new and interesting mechanism for breaking throws in fighting games, and I will somehow have to make use of that.

Did they change the system from the older VF5s (I didn't really play them) so that you cannot enter multiple throw escapes?

Just as background/a sidenote; I'm a high level Tekken player. Not sure if you guys know how the throw breaking system works in Tekken, but throws can be broken completely on reaction. That sounds easy, but it is not and it takes Tekken players years to be able to consistently break the three different types of throws on reaction in an actual match. If there is a surefire way for me practice throw escaping in VF with the same discipline that I did in Tekken, I am willing to do that. But in my mind so far (because of my limited knowledge), despite throws being buffered into evade moves and other things, throws are escaped on a lucky guess because the start up animations are all the same. I'm assuming that someone will tell me that that is wrong, so I would just like to know why that is wrong.

If there is still a way to enter multiple throw escape attempts, in my head that will greatly reduce the number of throws successfully landed. If I could cover 4P+G, 6P+G, and neutral P+G (or at least two) every time I thought or actually saw a throw coming, I wouldn't feel so bad about being thrown to death. Being that throws are unblockable and VF seems so balanced in terms of all of the other frame data and stuff I have read so far, multiple inputs would seem like a fair throw escape system as well. But I cannot figure out how to do it.

Forgive me for my limited knowledge and assumptions. It is only to better myself as a player and become more comfortable and familiar with the detailed systems of the game.

Any solid data I get, I will create a section in this post and update the post so that any beginners like myself will be able to refer to the first post for convenience.

Thanks in advance,

-Anthony/Sketch

 

Well you can visually react to the grabbing animation then hold + a direction ...still only a 33% chance of getting the right throw though.

 

Aah, gotcha. Throws are a 33% chance of a break, and they got rid of escaping with 1 and 3 directions. Good to know. Thank you.

 

Some food for thought ^_^

For me, throw escapes in VF are often something you use to layer your defense when you're in a vulnerable position. It's an "extra layer of defense" whether it's applying the new Easy Throw Escape to your Guards, something you input when you're stuck in recovery after you whiff an attack or you got blocked, etc... It's even something you can input (without disrupting your options) when you evade, do a reversal, etc...

Meaning, it's an active part of your flow, without disrupting it. At least that is the ideal in VF. Therefore you have at least 1 in 3 options covered (since in FS you can no longer escape multiple throws).

That said, Final Showdown has reverted to the Pre-VF5 rule of Attacks beat Throws (well, what actually happened was they got rid of throw clashes which were added in VF5). This means that a full attack (as opposed to a guard-cancelled kick) will beat the normal high and low throws as long as the full attack can animate before the throw fully connects. Because of this, at least in neutral and non-guaranteed throw situations (-10 is guaranteed throw situation), you can technically react to a throw animation by attacking right away. This is very hard and I wouldn't count on it for a long time, but technically you can do that.

But again, at least for me, throw escapes are "extra armor" you put into your active defense whenever you're in a vulnerable state (or also now, literally whenever you are guarding).

My 2 cents and hope it helps someone ^_^