VF5REVO Update 1.02 - February 26th (JST)

Discussion in 'News' started by akai, Feb 17, 2025.

By akai on Feb 17, 2025 at 4:11 PM
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    Last Updated: February 26, 2025 - "Virtua Fighter 5 R.E.V.O.", 1.02 has been released to the public. Please share your experience with this update in the thread!

    Details of this patch have been revealed:

    Adjustments to rollback-related features and menus.
    ✅Removed "OFF" as an option from Options > Game Settings > Rollback (Beta)
    ✅Changed the values in Options > Game Settings > Frame delay (Beta) from "0-10" to "1-6".
    ✅When there is a difference between the player and opponent's frame delay settings during an online match, delay values for both will be adjusted to match the lower of the two.
    ✅Updated the guidance text that appears on the Game Settings menu for rollback-related options.
    ✅Effects and sound effects will not appear or play if they are inconsistent with rollback results.

    Matchmaking adjustments
    ✅Adjusted the matchmaking system to prevent situations where a player would repeatedly match up with the same opponent.

    Added a basic data collection feature
    *This is in preparation for collecting various types of data to provide a better overall gameplay experience. We plan to release statistics based on the collected data in the future, such as match-up charts and rank distribution.

    Fixed a bug where controller buttons could be assigned to keyboard and mouse keys if the game bar is activated by controller.

    Other bug fixes

    Source:
    Official Update Notes: https://virtua-fighter.com/en/news/123
    https://x.com/VF_SEGA/status/1891548167700955404

    https://x.com/vf_sega/status/1892446584652386730?s=46&t=KtBWIts_HqEEnm9MXdRUAA
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2025

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Discussion in 'News' started by akai, Feb 17, 2025.

    1. NAPPY PROPHET
      NAPPY PROPHET
      I hope they add a kumite single player mode and cross play with ps5. Also, more customization items.
    2. 40i4
      40i4
      the cross play highly wanted, but almost 0 chance for that since there are 2 net codes?
    3. Tekken_Sux
      Tekken_Sux
      I hope that this Steam release is basically an extended test to make the netcode good, so they can release REVO on PS4 and PS5. Maybe even Xbox and/or Switch 2.

      Because fighting games need crossplay, that's just a fact. It's the only way to give everybody good competition around the clock
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    4. 40i4
      40i4
      > I hope that this Steam release is basically an extended test to make the netcode good,

      it makes sense and i also hope for that :)
    5. akai
      akai
      We are here to inform you with the details of the "Virtua Fighter5 R.E.V.O" Ver.1.02 update scheduled for February 26th(JST), 2025.

      Adjustments to rollback-related features and menus.
      ✅Removed "OFF" as an option from Options > Game Settings > Rollback (Beta)
      ✅Changed the values in Options > Game Settings > Frame delay (Beta) from "0-10" to "1-6".
      ✅When there is a difference between the player and opponent's frame delay settings during an online match, delay values for both will be adjusted to match the lower of the two.
      ✅Updated the guidance text that appears on the Game Settings menu for rollback-related options.
      ✅Effects and sound effects will not appear or play if they are inconsistent with rollback results.

      Matchmaking adjustments
      ✅Adjusted the matchmaking system to prevent situations where a player would repeatedly match up with the same opponent.

      Added a basic data collection feature
      *This is in preparation for collecting various types of data to provide a better overall gameplay experience. We plan to release statistics based on the collected data in the future, such as match-up charts and rank distribution.

      Fixed a bug where controller buttons could be assigned to keyboard and mouse keys if the game bar is activated by controller.

      Other bug fixes

      https://x.com/vf_sega/status/1892446584652386730?s=46&t=KtBWIts_HqEEnm9MXdRUAA
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    6. Manjimaru
      Manjimaru
      the fuck. They removed the possibility for frame delay 0??!
      So this game now runs at 61 fps? That cant be right. I think I just lost all interest playing this game.
    7. Combolammas
      Combolammas
      Delay doesn't change FPS
    8. Adam Gibson
      Adam Gibson
      I wouldn't get my hopes up for *REVO* on other platforms, but VF6 will almost assuredly be crossplay enabled
      That setting is for the amount of frame delay between your button press and the action happening, in order to create a buffer for the rollback netcode to do its thing(so you don't get the weird teleports and stuff). REVO runs at 60fps, so a 1 frame delay would be 1/60th of a second which is basically imperceptible.

      I can't vouch for the quality of the netcode but generally a 1 frame delay won't ruin your experience, while trying to run a 0 frame delay would cause jittering and teleporting and all kinds of other nasty problems. In fact, probably better to bump that delay up to 2 or 3 even.
      Last edited: Feb 20, 2025
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    9. YOMI
      YOMI
      So far, REVO has not been exactly playable under delay setting 3 even with opponents inside my own country, so it being forced to be a minimum of 1 is whatever.

      However, I'd be more worried about the game forcing a differance of delay frames between players to the lowest number since this would mean that if I've set it to 3 and I matchup with an opponent who has it at 1 would mean teleport hell for the both of us thus completely defeating the purpose of the setting.

      This assuming of course they've not completely tweaked and fixed the netcode with this update, which I highly doubt.
    10. 40i4
      40i4
      I like REVO and the announced changes.

      Just 2 months ago, i played awesome VF on delay-based net code. Now, I can play rollback based VF, how awesome it is?

      I'm very thankful for that. That's great \o/
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    11. NecromancyBlack
      NecromancyBlack
      Forcing to the lower delay is kinda odd, I'm not sure why they need to do that at all as the input delay is specific to the client and shouldn't impact the opponent at all.
    12. akai
      akai
      In a recent rollback test - https://virtuafighter.com/threads/rollback-lab.22280/#post-418412 - both of us notice that the greater our difference in rollback settings are from each other, the higher our ping was (quantitative) and the game felt more sluggish (qualitative).

      For example, if I play two games with setting 2 and my opponent play first game with setting 2 and next match with 6: The match in which we had different settings, had a greater or less stable ping (by 10-20 ms) and felt more sluggish.

      Vice versa if I play two games with setting 6 and my opponent play first game with setting 6 and second game with setting 2: The match in which my setting is different from opponent felt more sluggish.

      We could not rule out that what we experienced was due to our connection and not necessarily due to our setting differences.

      This was something I was planning to test more with others...but it seems SEGA 1.02 update forcing people to play on the same delay setting suggests the above observation is indeed related to different delay settings between players.
      biquiba, 40i4, Acid and 1 other person like this.
    13. Tha_FeauchA
      Tha_FeauchA
      Awesome. Those last 2 sound great. Seeing the flash but also not getting the hit is always weird and throws me off. Amazing that they can remove that from happening in a rollback netcode.

      I'm sure (hoping) those other things will help make online smoother. Time will tell.

      Edit: They should also add a in-game friends list feature.
      Last edited: Feb 22, 2025
    14. Dr. Curien
      Dr. Curien
      Delay values for both will be adjusted to match the lower of the two? They are going to force me to play on Frame 1 Delay with strangers on Ranked?
      Oh boy.
    15. akai
      akai
      Patch is up! Hopefully it fixes the room mode issues.

      1st impression of VF5REVO 1.02 netcode: Playing rank matches with delay set at 3 & only accepting matches listed as Green connection. I got matches to players with delay setting at 1-3. Delay setting at 2-3, I felt comfortable playing.

      Delay setting 1 was playable, but at 1, teleporting from movement was frequent & did make it somewhat awkward to play. I think I could get used to it, VF Dragon-Ball Style! The sound effect and hit effect removed did not seem to make a big difference for how it feels to play for me

      The issue with game adjusting settings to the lower delay between players, is that players may not choose the "best" setting for the connection they are playing. And this is very subjective for each person's own preferences. I do think the different settings between players does cause some issues, hence the update making everyone play on same delay.

      Unless they can improve the rollback code, some possible solutions for better online gaming experience:

      1. In rank, not only show the connection meter, but also the delay setting of opponent. That way the player could avoid/not force to play at delay settings they are not comfortable playing at.

      2. When a match is found, allow the two players to adjust their delay settings. If a match is a green connection, the players may be able to play comfortably at low delay...on seeing yellow or worse connection, they can change to higher delay and accept match.
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    16. YOMI
      YOMI
      Is it just me or did this update break the main menu television? I've not had it shown me any matches despite there being players in both public rooms and ranked.
    17. 40i4
      40i4
      I think there is also an issue with ranking mode statistics? a lack of history data for a few players i checked (including me)
    18. akai
      akai
      Yes to both ^^
    19. biquiba
      biquiba
      Yeah. I also didn't understand what Majinmaru meant.

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