An assasin trained in ... Judo!!??

Too bad Ryo is queer in a non gay way.
For the next instalment of Shen Mue the soundtrack should feature the village people and Village people music should play everytime he asks for sailors.

 

Myke il quote CreeD on this one:Or, maybe you are sort of pointlessly bitching about things that have no impact on the gameplay and aren't going to be changed

Thats my beef, bitch bitch bitch thats all he seems to do.

 

Almaci, I don't see you posting anything about gameplay either...but I do see you bitching. No offense, just kinda want to point that out.

 

Hey Alcami, Do you play VF??

 

I've trained a bit in aiki-j.... that's why Aoi is my primary character.

Some of the throws and reversals that Aoi are very authentic... I've broken someone's wrist once with that high punch reversal.

But the strikes... uhm, I've never seen any of those strikes before outside VF. /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

 

Yeah I play, I used to talk about it a lil in the past both here and on irc, generally im regarded as the best in the Benelux ( Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg ) so much so that I was barred from the Sony tournament for a VF4 arcade game .
Im some sort of a mini legend over here, altough that doesnt mean uch when you see the competition over here, im comparable I think to the better US players and a notch below the best US players ( as was evident from my matches against some of them ).
I love the game with a passion and you will see that most of my bitchings are directed at people instead of at the game.

 

Awesome. As long as you play the game, I say continue bitching!!!

 

Thanks for youre permission

 

Just my two cents from the vids I have seen. Judo has two main variations - olympic style and traditional, with Olympic being the much more popular style due to McDojo's making everybody believe they can become an olympic competitor. Goh initial grapple technique, hip throw, and pull-Push are all really authentic. Judo works a lot by changing the other guys center of gravity, displacing them, then dropping them in some shape, form, or fashion. About 1/3 of all judo's throws leave both parties on the ground (suicide throws), the rest leave the attacker on the ground, with the judo guy either standing or kneeling. ...this being said, I think Goh is a fairly decent representation of the style...

 

We were both at E3, so I did see you play a little at the tournament.

 

dude that was e3 2k1, that was a personal disaster

 

I think he was talking about the E3 tournament in May of this year.

 

He was?
Oh ok, my bad.

 

140 pound Judoka ? Not impressed. He fights in the prelim. divisions which precede the main events in tournaments.

The weight/height in VF are tilted towards the weak/small side. No one is above 6 foot ?!?! Where are the decently sized heavyweights ? I would of thought with the popularity of tournaments such as K1 in Japan would open eyes towards the idea of a speedy, strong, tall heavyweight. The only 2 characters with good proportions & weight for their power is Akira and Lau. Jacky is a joke at 6 foot, 165 pounds ! Im 6 foot, 170 pounds, 32 inch waist and Im half Jacky's size. Neither is super middleweight boxing champ Eric Lucas ( 6 foot, 168 ). The weights and heights given for the power output are overall unreasonable ( I know its a video game and in no way realistic but give us something thats fathomable ).

There seems to be a retisence towards including above average or even tall heavyweights ( which mostly hail from caucasian or black backgrounds ). The size of the fighters IMO are modeled on the asian idea of culturally common. And Japan isnt the model of "correctness" concerning their view of foreign cultures. We're always so concerned on this board of being respectful of Japanese culture, how about them respecting ours by implementing characters that represent the reality of western physiology and not a reflection of theirs ?
I truly believe the culturally indoctrinated idea of Japanese superiority that a good part of their population carries in their head ( not everyone, especially the younger generation ) has played a major role in selectively ignoring the portion of fighters who frequently dominate their fields ( of which few asians are represented ).

Prince Nasseem isnt going to win against Lennox Lewis EVER. It just wont happen. All Im saying is if you prevent Lewis from entering the arena entirely in the first place, Nasseem will always be a champ...

This is not a huge issue and should be taken lightly as it concerns a video game. But I do consider it a "taboo" subject that does bring to light the very un-secret idea of socially acceptable xenophobia and inferiority-complexes plaguing the land of the rising sun.

 

Very true about the fighter size to power proportions...Aoi and
Pai as snips of girls would have no chance of decking mid-heavy
and heavyweight opp. at the top of their games, obviously, and Jacky's
power is unrealistic for his weight (a mid-heavy opp. like Lau would
kill him in a real fight, even with age and stamina being a factor...Jacky
would have to run all over the ring and hope to wear Lau down, but
that didn't exactly work for Ali against Frazier first fight, since that's
about the equivalent of their respective styles) while Kage I think is
realistic in punching and kicking power for his size, not anywhere near overwhelming, just fast.
The only argument that can be made for the Japanese view of
Eastern body-type bias is that I'm 5-11 189 and have practiced boxing
for ten years or so, but I'm not in fighting shape; a trained 180 pound middleweight
or light heavyweight can hit harder, move faster, and take more punishment
than I can, even though proportionately we're the same. Sarah, Lion and Shun
are just fiction when you talk realism. Vanessa's about as realistic a female
fighter as I could imagine, and her strength to size level is
about right. Lei Fei too is a well-done fighter, but again too light to
compete realistically against heavier fighters. In boxing it's always
pointed out that a good big fighter will almost ALWAYS beat a good smaller fighter, that is
if the skill levels are about the same. Size and weight is power, regardless, and is a
natural advantage. That's why Roy Jones Jr will never be
heavyweight champion of the world...he'd have a hard time
with any heavyweight at that level, and would probably get
knocked out against even low-level contenders.

 

f=ma /versus/images/icons/wink.gif

 

Bruce Lee had no problems with Chuck Norris.

 

Whether it was movie Bruce Lee or real-life Bruce Lee, the man was
an obsessed maniac about fighting, and that obsession overcame
whatever weaknesses Lee had, up to a point. Weaknesses including
of course diminutive size and lightweight stature, but who knows
whether Norris at his prime and unencumbered with friendship with Lee,
perhaps even motivated by hate, could have beaten Lee in a real
straight-up match. Anyway, fighting is so arbitrary that a Lee/Norris
1970s match wouldn't garner odds in Vegas. Really, both men were
good enough that a true match could go either way, I mean a match in
which both fighters were motivated to the height of their abilities: Norris
was bigger and stronger, could probably hit like nobody's business...Lee
was faster, probably could generate more overall force because of his
high conditioning, and was probably technically superior to Norris. That's just
basic stuff though...either man lands a devastating blow, the fight would have
been over in seconds, as it always is when highly skilled fighters are involved.
The only time you see a ROCKY situation where a guy gets pounded for
11 rounds and still fights on valiantly, is when the fighter doesn't have the skill or
instinct to finish the opp. off. Maybe Lee cleaned Norris' clock every day in
training, but I don't know enough about their relationship to say. There aren't many
fighters AT THAT TIME who could have beaten Lee, simply because Lee
had established a new technique that no one had seen before. But that's the way
it is with any superior fighter, in his TIME, like Frazier or Ali, or Foreman in the
'70s, or Hagler and Leonard in the '80s...no one can touch them until someone
develops a technique and the power to stop them. Mostly, it is simply age which
does the great fighters in.

 

Heh, the rumble in the jungle.
Skinny Ali against the big brute powerhouse that was George Forman.
A psychological battle as much as it was a physical one.