Character Ranking Theory

Discussion in 'General' started by Libertine, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. Jide

    Jide Joe Musashi Silver Supporter

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  2. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    Things would need to be clearly defined and have a numerical value attached to them as to keep results constant across the cast. I think the easiest thing to work out first would be a damage chart.

    What I'll do is lay out some ground work and then rank El Blaze's damage as he's the character I'm most familiar with.

    Let's say we attribute a letter to each level of damage:

    D = 40-50
    C = 50-60
    B = 60-70
    A = 70-80
    S = 80 -90
    SS = 90+

    Obviously the next step would be to work out whih character we would be basing results on. For the most accurate reading we would have to take all characters into consideration which is a lot of work. But we would have a solid idea of what characters can do.

    So we'd have to break characters down into launchers, CH launchers( where applicable) and throw damage. It would also be worthwhile doing wall combo damage as well.

    So, thinking on this with Blaze: (I'm on the bus atm can't check anything) His combo starters from the top of my head would be:

    6K+G (nh and ch)
    2_6P+K
    8P+K
    HCF PK (nh and ch)
    4P+K (ch)
    1K+G (ch)
    Jumping K (on landing)
    Rocket discharge 2K
    46P+K
    RD K on a staggered opponent
    Wall combos (for the sake of logic I think all characters should work this after a side kick wall stagger)

    This is not including anything escapable (besides when calculating bare throw damage so nothing breakable in combos)

    I already have most of the max damage stuff down for blaze in my notebook (if not all of it) so I'll do the math when I can.

    Basically we would take each combo starter and do max damage combos then attribute a letter ranking to each character for each combo. Then we would average the letters for each character by findingbout which is most common. Then we'd attribute that letter to that character in terms of damage.

    So for talking's sake, I work out that vs Eileen with Blaze most of his combos are around 70-80 Damage, he would have an 'A' rank in damage vs Eileen. Then once we have it for all the characters again we average it once more.

    The biggest problem (aside from the time it would take to do ot) would be that all characters have differents amounts of combo starters and this would probably saturate results somewhat. So another useful thing to track would be amount of combo starters for another grading for characters, name it technical or something.

    We could go through all of that or we could just say: Everyone deals some damage and Jacky hits like an unstoppable fuck your life machine bent on destroying everything you hold dear in your world.
     
  3. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Sorry Jide, but this is not the thread, nor the Droid, I was looking for! [​IMG]

    The thread I had in mind actually, or attempted to, assigned values to different move properties. The thread you linked was largely subjective with people's tiers (tears) based on their opinion and experience.
     
  4. Chill

    Chill +40 DP Content Manager Shun Gold Supporter

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  5. Jide

    Jide Joe Musashi Silver Supporter

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    I think I remember this Myke and someone actually made an Excel file right with all the damage values.

    Maybe I'm wrong again...
     
  6. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    hmmm I think that's the one, but damn, that thread was 9 years ago! I was thinking it may have been more recent, but now I'm not so sure!
     
  7. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    Looks like that thread was ranking character tools. Maybe we should start rating tools before going into the other stuff? I'll do Brad for the time being. If everybody does a summary of his character's tools, then we could stack rank. I'll do research and think of a good way to present the data.
     
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  8. Tricky

    Tricky "9000; Eileen Flow Dojoer" Content Manager Eileen

    I'm going to hold off on writing anything for a little bit. This sounds like a lot of work [​IMG]
     
  9. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    Keep me up on what you turn up, Lib. While my internet is shit I'm a doho mode champion.
     

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