Combo Thread

Right. Whether part of a string or no string, Aoi is -18 after a blocked sweep (or -16 after a blocked back turned sweep) and unable to go into Tenchi right away in any of these situations.

Kruza

 

She can go to Tenchi after blocked 2K+G. Tenchi input just needs to be delayed slightly.

She can tenchiparry elbows after blocked 2K+G, she can tenchi-sidestep Aois 43P after blocked 2K+G etc etc all that jazz. Whether of not Tenchi after sweep can be hitchecked I cannot say.

 

so i've been testing some different ways to sober shun against the wall and here's what i found:

wallsplat > > > > > > > + max charge -- +71, -5 DP
this one is already in the list but with a question mark. as far as i can tell, KG cancel provides the correct delay, but makes this combo fairly awkward to perform. maybe someone else could test further to confirm, i don't think i want to revisit this one lol.

wallsplat > KNEE > > > > > + max charge -- +71, -5 DP
closed stance

wallsplat > KNEE > > + > > > + max charge -- +71, -4 DP

SDE MC wall > + > > > + > > > + max charge -- +77, -5 DP
walk forward just a tiny bit before P+K. in closed stance you may omit this delay.

SDE MC wall > + > > > > > + max charge -- +77, -6 DP
open stance

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specific wallsplat combos

wallsplat > > > > > > + max charge-- +60, -5 DP
in closed, works best if both characters are right up to the wall.

+ wallsplat > > > + max charge-- +44, -4 DP
low damage, but lets you remove 4 DP at almost any angle to the wall.

 

Nice info

 

How do you modify 46P combos if they hit ST?

 

it varies among characters, especially when you get into max damage combos. sometimes delays that are needed from the front are no longer needed from the side (blaze 46P > 6_P > 43P > 4P > 2P > 2_46P). for some characters, new combos are unlocked (sarah 46P > 6_PKG > 2K+GP > 2P > 2_46P). even stranger, sometimes a frame delay is needed on stomach or back side but not the other (no examples, i ditched these PITA combos).

 

I see. So he generally has more time to do stuff? I'm sure other characters with the same knockdown property have potential to squeeze out more dmg as well.

 

in some cases yes, in others less time, like the el blaze example above. another is 6_P > KNEE > 2P > 2_46P for sarah. no 1FK needed for 2P. i only made it through half the cast trying to find all the side combos i could, so going through the heavier characters may reveal more about how these combos work...or not. seems pretty random so far.

 

Time to crack some ribs! Here are the most damaging side crumple combos I could find. Any that start with require you to dash in, unless an OM is specified.

Universal (minus Taka)
> > +64
if you don't want to remember a bunch of combos, i'd roll with this one. easy, good damage for all.

Eileen
> KNEE > 1FK > +69

> KNEE > 1FK > +68

> 1FK > + +68
just buffer 33P late to force 1 frame delay


El Blaze
> KNEE > > +69

> > + +68

> > +65


Aoi
> KNEE > 1FK > +69

> 1FK > + +68
just buffer 33P late to force 1 frame delay

> > > +66


Vanessa
OM toward Van's front > > KNEE > > +68

> > > > +67

> KNEE > DLC +66


Sarah
> KNEE > > +69

> > > +66

> > +65


Lion
> KNEE > > +69

> 1FK > + +68
just buffer 33P late to force 1 frame delay

> > > +66


Pai
> > +65

> KNEE > > 1FK + +65

> > +64


Shun
> > > +66, 2 DP
only dash about half way in before 214P

> > > + +62, 3 DP
only dash about half way in before 214P

> KNEE > > + +65, 1 DP


Lau
> KNEE > > +69

OM toward Lau's back > > > > +66

> KNEE > > 1FK + +65


Lei Fei
> KNEE > > +69

OM toward Akira's back > > > > +66

> KNEE > > 1FK + +65


Brad
> > 1FK +68

> > > +66

> KNEE > > 1FK + +65


Kage
OM toward Kage's back > > > > +66

> KNEE > > + +65

> > +64


Goh
> > +68

OM toward Akira's back > > > > +66

> KNEE > > + +65


Jean
> KNEE > > +69

OM toward Jean's front > > > > +66

> > +64


Jacky
OM toward Akira's back > > > +68

OM toward Jacky's front > > > > +66

> KNEE > > + +65


Akira
> > +64

OM toward opponent's front > > KNEE > > +61


Jeffry
> > +64

OM toward Jeffry's front > > KNEE > 1FK + +60


Wolf
> > > +66

> > +64

> KNEE > > +62


Taka
> + > + +61

> + > +58

OM to Akira's front > > > +54

 

Amazing finds @mfwebdude! Put me to shame and thensome! Keep up the finds, and I'll continue to direct an akira player I come across to this thread.

From my experience, Akira generally gets the same combo, however you'd either have to input your 's as 1FK , or vice versa.

 

thanks man. i realize there aren't as many players around anymore, but anyone interested in testing this stuff should give it a go. i'm pretty confident about most of what i post, but some are a little too difficult for me to get consistently. Aoi's 3K side crumple with 1FK P is one example (1FK Ps are a pain for some reason).

on that note, it would be pretty awesome if the game showed something like this so you could see if you are getting a frame delay:

 

I'm not sure if this is old news but I was dojoing Akira just for the fun of it and noticed that

46P, OM to Taka's front, DLC is a staple go-to combo from both stances. 56 damage. Taka specific obviously.

 

Not sure if it really fits into this thread, but at least partially it does, so...

Some jap setups for p+g => mid rising kick punishment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J293_Hsy0w

 

brutal. nice find.

 

Anyone figured out a consistent way to do this combo?

 

It's supposed to be 1fk'd too. 66K+G,P.

 

Assumably the one you said you cant get to work against Jacky in your previous post?