Dark Knight

Well I'm Asian so I'll have to watch it multiple times to get the desired effect. Yeah

 

I saw the movie a few days ago, and what can I say, the movie is amazing. The way how Heath Ledger performed the Joker was excellent since he knows how to act like a real sociopath. However, I pity him since the film industry lost a great actor.[/size]

 

Dark Knight X360 special edition

http://gizmodo.com/5033168/the-dark-knight-edition-xbox-360

 

Now that shit is gangster

 

Alright, Spoilers ahead. Don't read this blah blah blah 12 frames blah blah.

I thought I loved this movie, but upon contemplation, I found out that there was stuff about the movie that I really liked and stuff what I really didn't.

And what I didn't like about this movie was, essentially, Batman. He's not only a flat character, since practically everyone in this movie is flat anyway... but he's pretty much just a rich thug who's hung up over some girl. He has none of the Batman saavy, none of the detective skills, and none of the fighting prowess that Batman is known for. Every single fighting scene is just a beat-down, with Batman pummeling and getting pummeled (srsly, he gets hit a lot, but he just keeps truckin' [i.e. thug]). Batman is a smart fucker, and yet... The Joker is the smart one? He out-thinks Batman at every turn (even to the point of being ridiculous, when Batman inspects evidence the Joker leaves only to have stepped into YET ANOTHER CUNNING DEVICE). The BIGGEST opportunity the movie had to show Batman's detective skill, which was him trying to find the Joker at the very end, just boiled down to him being a rich guy. Wow, I'm impressed.

Sorry my friends, but it bears repeating: THE JOKER OUT-THINKS BATMAN AT EVERY TURN.

...what now? So yeah, this movie not only plays into the Batman movie staple "The villains are the main characters," but it also completely fails to give Batman any skills and any intelligence.

Another thing that separates this Batman from the real Batman is that this one is perfectly adjusted to day-to-day life. He has an awesome relationship with Alfred and Morgan Freeman's character, he can make speeches and interact with strangers perfectly, has hundreds of gorgeous women that seem to enjoy his company in spite of the fact that he's a billionaire... I mean, what? They did an alright job distinguishing Bruce from Batman I guess, what with Bruce falling asleep in the meeting, and the scene with Dent where you see what Dent is saying is affecting him, but besides that the only real difference is that whisper-shouting nonsense (though I admit the voice was more bearable in this one than it was in the Batman Begins).

Heath Ledger stole the show, but I think it was more than that. If the late Ledger had not performed so magnificently, the movie would have been simply good. The script was engineered to make the Joker an awesome character, the main-stage act if you will, with Batman being more of an afterthought. Kind of a necessary act, but without much personality of his own. The one bit of REAL detective work he did, where he found out that the guy Harvey was threatening to kill was an escapee from Arkham, was not shown, not even reinforced, and entirely an afterthought. So I'm not saying that he has no skill in the movie, I'm saying he has no recognizable skill. It's all down-played, it's all backround junk.

And I don't feel that his weird forensics display was a display of detective work. Especially since his whole effort went pretty much to waste... and was down-played again... to make way for... TA-DA... the mother fucking Joker bitches.

It should have been called "The Wild Card" or "Joker Begins", for seriously.

 

The joker always had things under control and the only reason he bothers getting caught is because he wants to make Batman laugh and think of him as funny. If Joker wanted to he could have things happen to where no one could ever figure him out but he plays around with everyone the whole time like a child playing with their favorite toys.

The Batman was outmatched because he wasn't completely aware of his random tactics. In the animated series and comics he wouldn't be fooled as much as he was and know just how to end the Joker's terror whenever he wants every time. Ledger showed just how dangerous the Joker can really be it is a shame he won't be the Joker in future movies.

 

Spoof of a scene from The Dark Knight.


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Haha, that was a solid 5/10. woulda been an 8/10 if it was about half as long. Pretty damn funny for the first min and half. BTW, that guy did a good job as the joker.

 

Saw it weeks ago but only now bother to write here. This is an overhyped movie. Im on same lines as KoD. Without Ledger it would have been only a mediocre movie in my books, with the script being the main annoyance. Ledger makes it tolerable.

 

I saw it a few wks back, here's my take.

You can't see it in a vacuum. It was overhyped. it was only good, but yet if i didn't read about how great it was for months i might have found it Really good.

 

I think you guys are looking at it from the wrong perspective. Its the BEST comic to movie yet. Its also the best superhero movie to date. I feel like many of you are comparing it to genres where it just doesn't fit.

Would you compare CoD to WoW? How about Halo to Tetris? Great games all with their own unique characteristics. Most importantly completely different genres. Professional movie reviewers take this into account when judging films. Disregarding any sales numbers, the movie was fantastic for what it was about.

Its not The Departed, Titanic, or Godfather. Its Batman, a comic book and superhero epic.

 

3 words:
Spiderman. Bruce. Campbell.

 

I thought Bruce Campbell's cameos in the Spiderman films were great but C'mon. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

They don't make any of the films really stand out.

 

yeah no shit. Cock-OD stop smokin that crack and stop posting in this thread. everyone already knows your point of view or lack there of.

 

Wow flash, nice well reasoned argument you have there - clearly you're not lacking a point of view /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

Jokes about bruce campbell aside, both spider-man and x-men 2 are less flawed than dark knight as far as superhero movies go. If you're expanding to comic book movies, sin city is a much more faithful translation of a comic book to a movie. I haven't read the oldboy comic yet, so I cant speak to how good the adaptation is, but the movie is really well made and genuinely disturbing unlike dk.

 

I would have to say that's 100% opinion. Also I think its fair to note that if hype is what lead this movie, which many have implied, then it would have fell off after week one.

 

Don't mean to butt in but this whole thread is 100% opinion on whats the best and what isn't

 

too true! God help you if you don't think DK is the grail!!

best comic book to movie? Ghost World or American Splendor.

Worst comic book to movie? V for Vendetta. Congrats to the Wachowski brothers for missing the entire point of that work.

Best superhero comic to movie? No idea. DK was pretty good though. Very nice re-imagining of the batman franchise and more aptly handled than the first although it does have it's flaws.

 

Look, GodEater, you can't eat my God because he's not edible and God can't help you because you don't believe in Him but you just said that V FOR VENDETTA is the WORST comic book to movie???
No, sir, V FOR VENDETTA is the real grail, and I request that you indubitably recognize.
Anybody who disagrees... umm... you suck... and stuff...
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

What about TNMT!? It was great back in its days. I totally believed those guys dressed as turtles were the real ones... when I was a kid... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Anyway... I haven't seen DK yet, gonna do it tomorrow, sorry.
But that's good, at least I can say that I think that the first two Batman movies (Val Kilmer one and Michael Keaton one) were one of the best comic to movie transitions.
One of the worst? Definitely Spiderman 2 and 3 (I could stand the first one somehow)... the actor sucked (Toby, lol) and the script was VERY loosely based on the comic.

Other than that, I really enjoyed X-Men series, but that's not actually for following more or less the comic's story, but for how they presented some characters. (Xavier, Wolverine, Jean, Cyclops, those are good picks on the actors).
Let's just get one thing straight for the future... Juggernaut is not a fucking mutant! (Like I said, I don't like it for the story)