Do you still believe in VF5R for consoles?

Nah not any more... I've totally given up. I'll play some blaz blue!!!

 

VF5R on consoles is dead. If anything, it's this new version (VF5:LB? LauVF read the title on some japanese BBS) that would come out, but I doubt it will.

What sucks now is that it's 8 months before T6 comes out console, even the most dedicated Tekken players aren't playing T5R anymore. I'm not that high on SF4 either.

 

Really with SF4, being so successful and a resurgengce in fighting games, now would be the best time to anounce a release for VF5R

 

Holy shit!!! I was hoping that VF5:r was coming out but now I'm pretty sure it won't. Shame on SEGA!!! I agree with you, L_A, you totally have a point. We are really sad for all this going on right now, we are 5 hard-core players/friends who are pissed to say the least, to see our favorite game go down the drain... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
Guess we are going to have to migrate to other fighters or retire from fighting games altogether...
Sad Sad times.

 

This is a huge problem companies in general have. Nothing against anybody here who studied business in college. But a lot of them move on to control companies in a field they know jack shit about. It boggles my mind that people running an engineering firm can know nothing about engineering and be major factors in how engineering problems are solved.

I'll never get it. . . it'd work so much better if the engineers were running things. I think it'd be more profitable in the long run.

 

With Seth Killian heading Capcom's public relationship here in the U.S. that company is going to own the fighting genre for years to come. Finding a die hard pro gamer for this position is the best thing Capcom could have ever done. I really wish Sega would learn from this, but they won't. I say they hired Gerlad (LA) for the job. He is fluent in both languages, has a decent understanding on how this business works and even has friends in high places. If he gets the position hopefully he will hire me as his errand boy bitch... I'll get his cups of coffee. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif I gotta find some sort of way to weasel a cabinet out of him some how right?

 

I agree completely, I'm taking business in college, but I have realized this during the last year and I'm trying to take extra courses in specific fields exactly because I don't want to be a sub par manager in my field. Some companies haven't realized how important that is to make it a requisite though..

 

Thank the gods. You will go far man, your competitors will not know how you're so apt as predicting what your consumer wants.

 

Damn it. Looks like many people are going to retire from VF, not just L_A. Maybe if we lie down some good mail will turn up.

(Not mine)
What many people are feeling like doing now. Or is that SEGA bashing us?

 

Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking. Gerald for head of Sega's P.R. department!

 

Thanks for the nods but I think i'm a little too nuts to do a job like that.

 

that's why you'd be perfect for it!

 

Really, with the way Sega hasn't delivered the way other companies do, there's really no point on continuing. It's a vicious circle. Americans don't buy the game, Sega stops making it, the Americans who buy it lose hope and stop playing it.

I really do think Sega could have done a better job selling the game- as good as Sega's gamemaking is, it's business side is that terrible.

 

Aksys is the company that made Blazblue. They allowed the game to be imported on arcades outside of Japan, something Sega won't allow with VF5R. They are making a huge (30 hour) single-player story mode for consoles, something VF has been criticized for lacking. They are launching the game on both consoles simultaneously, something Sega hugely botched with VF5. And of course the game will have online play for both systems, another massive flaw of VF5 (on PS3).

And to top it all off, they found out that the community was going to ship some Blazblue arcade machines to EVO this year out of their own pockets, to promote the game the hardcore crowd was passionate about. The company instead, is going to be going to EVO themselves, with company representatives in force, and having full console setups for Blazblue at EVO provided by Aksys to promote Blazblue amongst the hardcore crowd that attends EVO.

The only interaction I remember Sega having with EVO was threatening to sue them for selling the 2K4 DVDs.

VF5R is obviously a no go at this point. Perhaps if a VF5FT comes out Sega can market the game to death and go out with a bang if this is truly the last VF game to have a console release. I would rather have them give us 5FT and then let the series die with a bang then to go out with a whimper.

If there is no chance at 5FT coming to consoles if they make it, then it's time to truly move on to playing KOFXII/BB/T6 or whatever else to replace VF as my other fighting game besides Super Turbo.

 

sadly I think it's time I took sega's hint , I mean if you can't even import the arcade board that's all avenue's locked off.

 

That and don't forget that Aksys is actually keeping in touch with the community through several forums such as snk-capcom.com and shoryuken.com
They are also in talks with Ponder (GGPO) while working on the netcode for BlazBlue, something much requested by fighters around the world.

SNK is trying to follow suit now, still a bit slow, but better than SEGA at least.

Sigh... SEGA's management has always been its biggest flaw and it doesn't look like they are changing anytime soon /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

Sega is really a sad fucking joke when it comes to keeping in touch with the VF community outside japan. It's really a shame.

 

Maybe Sega determined right off the bat that VF5 would be the end-of-the-line for the consoles. Maybe 5R is the end-of-the-line
for the VF in the arcades. This might be their swan song /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif

 

Maybe Sega feels, that they've taken VF on the consoles as
far as they want to take it.

Maybe they feel they've reached a state of perfection as far
as fighting games go.

Maybe they feel VF is like the game of Chess. The game has reached a peak and there's not really much substantive stuff that can be added. In the same way that Chess is what it is. Maybe we've seen the last installment of VF. Maybe VF5 is it on consoles. The-end-of-the-road.

Sega and AM2 might feel they've taken the 3d fighter as far as it
can be taken. Sure they can add a new character here or there, but the innovation is at an end.

Perhaps any further investment/time or energy is just not justified based on future income projections.

We're all looking for a new release, 5R, or VF6 but maybe
console VF5 is as good as it gets.

Should we just plan on Xbox 360 version and the PS3 version being the definitive console versions?

If that's the case is that going to change the tournament scene for VF outside of Japan? Or is the current version of VF5 on the consoles good enough to take us to whatever the replacements for the Xbox 360 and PS3 will be /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cry.gif

 

VF5R adds characters, so I refuse to accept VF5 as definitive.

Seriously wondering if I should refuse to buy anything made my Sega until a future VF game comes out. I got no problem rewarding companies for doing what I want, but I also got no problem not buying things from a company as punishment.

I was going to buy VOOT, but Sega's policies is making me reconsider that. Haven't decided if boycott is the right idea here.

Problem is quite honestly, most of Sega's other stuff is so putrid that I wouldn't ever buy it anyways.