dojo's exercices

I don't fully understand what you mean ... Cam you try breaking down what you're looking for?

 

Hm ok. What i wanna practice is backdash + ecdc. So the dojo drill i made was vs goh. I recorded him 3 time doing
1. 6p>1kp
2. 6p>1k>p+g
3. 6p>5
The exercice was to block the 6p then backdash and evade. For number one i have to backdash & evade the 1kp. Number 2 backdash & evade the 1k and add a fuzzy to avoid the throw. And number 3 just succeed a backdash & ecdc.
After few tries i found it too easy.
So my request is for this kind of exercice coz mine isn t very elaborate.
I want an exercice which i have to do backdash + ecdc the fastest possible if i want to succeed the exercice. I hope it s more understandable now lol

 

What exactly is the point of backdashing in this practice?

 

Same as Unicorn, I don't see the point of backdash canceling when you are at advantage.
It makes more sense to use a setup where you are a disadvantage, even better to use a mid-mid, have the first one blocked then BD-ECD by setting the cpu to react with elbow.

SDE can NOT hit a backdash even from point blank.Set CPU on backdash counter, try to SDE him, good luck.
If it hits you it's because you attacked out of backdash and Akira did 66666P or delayed 666P which means you have been yomied.

you can also try a more ghetto setup: record
-Goh blocking a split second, then 3KP
-Goh blocking then 3K-->throw.

As Vanessa use a mid-mid string, do the first hit, goh should block and immediately 3K--> something. U will need some retries to get the timing good but it works.

The mid-mid is important imo, as your opponent will hesitate on what to do because of the possible second hit, which will give you more opportunity/time to backdash. At point blank if you use a single hit move there is not much sense in backdashing since you'll still be throwable most of the time.

Also I think you are talking about 3KP not 1KP

 

to explain: as u know i m a pad player so my inputs are slower than stick or hitbox player that s the reason why i m trainin first being positive. i wanna work this inputs step by step. I know it makes more sense to use it at disadvantage guies. As i always did i need to practice it step by step. 448/233 isn t so easy to succeed for a pad player. (i m not kingo lol) then i ll try when i m at 0 and then after i ll try when i m at disadvantage.
U re right @Chibitox it s 3KP
@Unicorn The point is to avoid some string or moves with big range exemple goh 3K or akira's 666p. Until today i used only backdash when (for exemple) tried to side hit wit os 66k+g then i backdash and ppl who usually play with me knows for it and punish me. Also when my 6_K is blocked. So i wanna more options being in defensive situation. Yes there still that nitaku situation and i can try to hit or stay on guard, i know it but i wanna more options and this one seems to be the safetiest.
Edit: Chibi there is an option for the cpu to counterattack with a specific move or do I have to record it?

 

@MakiLeSushi Oh I see
Ok, then I will recommend to try vs Wolf.
Program him to do (from starting position, no dash or whatever): 3P BH / 3P 3K / 3P 46P. Then block 3P and perform backdash cancel into evade towards wolfs back into dash cancel guard.
Your goal is to block 3P and the backdash out of throw range / evade into side kick but cancel evade in time to block it / evade 46P. If 3K will be to fast for the beginning, swap it for 3K+G.
Should be good starting practice I believe.

 

Ok let s try for it. Once i succeed, do i have to replace 3p by my 6P?

 

you may let him hit you with his 3P on NH, but I am not sure if you will not be forced to replace BH with 6P+G then (BH have bigger reach)
I may try later today

 

i will don t worry.

 

I found a drill posted by @Tricky like 2 years ago in an old OEC thread (Look up OEC here )

The drill:

 

omg I totally forgot about that. More fun things to practice in dojo.

 

@MakiLeSushi still in need of good BD ECG practice?

 

wow, I just bumped into this thread, I'm using the dojo mostly for studying advantage/dis, counter hit, combos and strings, I know very little about recording other characters moves.

Seems like many advanced players do that though , wow., But don't you have to be good enough with the character you're recording to pull off the moves

That stops me dead in the water, I can barely pull off all my own characters moves (and I only use Lei Fei) , I can't imagine trying to record, Akira, Shun, Kage. etc LOL.

Everytime I think I know a little about the game, I find out, I really only know a little about the game

I guess it would be nice if you could download somebody else's recording

 

What bd ecg is exactly? Backdash evade crouching guard? If it s that i didn t find i practice in match directly...

 

@MakiLeSushi backdash evade cancel guard

 

Actually it is not hard input required and all guies who respond in this thread explain exactly what the input is and and how to practice. For me it s harder with van s reversal, if the exercice start with a punch van do her reversal while i m recordin... Just try and u ll see how easy it is and efficient...

 

@Unicorn i edited my post...

 

just tried some simple stuff with Lau and Jean, wow, very useful. I already need a lot of dojo time, this just gives one more reason to spend more time in the dojo. My weak game is probably going to get a little better after this