Escaping Wolf's DM P+K

Reposting my original question here instead of in a new thread:

Sorry if this is a very basic topic, but I thought I'd start a thread on this, since many people seem to get caught by dmpk by wolf. I'd like to find out what the official way to throw this is.

A friend and I were experimenting with it, and here's what I found. I was able to do:

(this did a low throw)
(this ended up being a throw escape)

What didn't seem to work was
(I got caught by the dmpk)
(I got caught by the dmpk)

I've also seen a video where a wolf did a KS throw against a DMPK. So it seems that sometimes you can low throw, sometimes you can high throw.

I'd like to know what the rules are for when you can low/high throw. I understand you can always escape, but I'd like to do something that does more damage

So I thought I'd just post here and ask.. what are the rules for beating dmpk? Do you low throw? High throw? Does direction matter? Does timing matter if you're doing a high or low throw?

 

As explained in this thread, a quick input of + and + is all you need to escape both of the throws on your sides from his DM P+K.

Wolf's DM P+K has frames where he's considered crouching so all low throws will work if you catch him at the right time.

When he's doing the actual grab animation you can duck under it and retaliate with a throw (high) of your own or a launcher like Akira's .

Aerial attacks also seem to beat it outright, jumping attacks will work for this or aerial moves like Wolf's +.

 

Wolf's DMPK can be interrupted by either standing throws or low throws. But the question is why would you want to throw it? It only happens when you predict it.

 

Ducking under the grab part of his DM P+K and responding with a throw or launcher can be done on reaction, i'm guessing it's not the same if you want to low throw him though.

I'd prefer to duck under the grab part and him since my character is incapable of much else

 

Why wouldn't it be the same if you want to low throw him? It seems a low throw would be the best option (most damage), wouldn't it?

 

DMPK happens when your opponents evade your attack, and rest of the window usually won't let you do throw against it. And that's why I'm confused what kind of situation you would like to throw a DMPK? If you are talking about you stand there and EXACTLY know the DMPK is coming, then both regular and low throws are workable.

Btw, what you mentioned above came out to be an escape, and that's because your last input refer that.

 

Landing a low throw would be nice but it isn't easy at all compared to ducking under the grab part of DM P+K and doing guaranteed damage on reaction. Someone correct me if my reasoning is wrong.

 

Or listening/observing the audio cue of his grunt during the startup... IF your willing to train your reflexes to pick up on this method.

 

What bothers me is that most dmpk'ers use is after half circle pp wwich i feel is a safe move because its hard to duck the second hit

 

Did you mean to duck from screw hook? Basically if you can't duck that regular attack, it's more difficult to duck against DMPK.

 

Yeah, listening the audio cue is a good way to help you react immediately. I didn't believe that until one of friend show me how to bock between Lion's low sweep and standing full circle, and I was like WTF it is possible.

 

I think the voice cue is one specific example against Lion. It's difficult for me to bock 6K+G,3K+G,1K+G,2K+G, and 43P at some great range away. However, my friend showed me that voice cue is the key, and he has nothing worry about those.

 

Your right... I've been playing this long enough now to pick up it though.

 

Same here. I have played in many places where the audio was hardly audible. Usually a bigger tournament. If you only play at home, I guess audio cues are ok.
but

Dennis: if what you say about Lion mixup is true, then at least I have to research this. Thanks for letting me know.

 

Yeah, Lion makes a different pussy noise for his low attacks.
For example, if you react well, you can apply this voice cue to block his 6K+G and 3K+G in a effective way.

 

HAHAHA! PUSSY NOISE FTW!