Good Games Thread

Discussion in 'Xbox Live' started by westtrade, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

    tony, you're not giving yourself enough credit. People think that you're the best Brad online, and when you're not using Brad, I think people believe that you still are a good player. Personally, I think that you have good fundamentals and mix ups. They're better than mine. You kept getting me with the same throw because of the threats you pose with your striking attacks. Forget about combos and foot positions. I think that understanding frames and mixing it up are more important elements to this game, and you're understanding of these is apparent. Your Phasing Turn setups are nice too. I don't know how to setup what you do. Your timing is definitely advanced, which you need for them. I don't know if I'd able to evade what you do, but you make it sound easy. You're overall a noticeably better player than I am. Don't think that I'm definitely going to surpass you. Thanks for the games, we should play again soon.
     
  2. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Get the fuck outta here Tony..... I don't co sign abare and I hate lau.
    Now it fucking on.Im gonna retire u for good now. U try to throw me under the bus like I lead the crusade against abare. Lmao Im gonna show you abare.
     
  3. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Damn you'd think abare was a sin, it's just part of the game. Best used against variations in moral play.
     
  4. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    lmao tony, ggs. That set was the exact reason i kept telling u i would play u later tonite. Then i went to settings to go hidden/show offline. But someow when i switched from mw2 to vf5 it put me right out there on front street and u invited me and i didn't want to be like, no no i'm playing vf now, but i'll play u later, lol. ggs my man. i was just trying to match ur abare, which is stupid, since u were playing ur style, and i was then TRYING to play some random style. look forward to playing u again. oh yeah, nice wall game

    ggs smb, it was fun messing around vs u. Epic wolf vs shun, hehe. Ur starting to nix some of ur bad habits.
     
  5. GameofDeath

    GameofDeath Active Member

    GGS ChiefGuttiWolf
    GGS Denkai( I go in dojo..more mix up next time)
    Thanks for the session!
     
  6. Rodnutz

    Rodnutz Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    XxRodnutzxX
    XBL:
    XxRodnutzxX
    GG's Tfam... your Lau is very strong just like your Brad. You use a lot of mix ups that I am just not use to... yet!

    In regards to my DM abare, seriously dude I need to start saving some of our matches so you can see just why I used DM those 3-4 times towards the end of a match.

    Whether it's the beginning of a match, the middle of a match, hell don't let it be the end of a match. YOU JUST NEVER STOP ATTACKING... NEVER MAN! Why do you think when my move is blocked I just go SDE anyway because if you pick a slow launcher or delayed throw that you like to use I win the guessing game. Even if I'm knock down you saw how I reacted I just stayed down fuck tech roll, get back up try to connect just 1 DE or 2P and then go SDE or evade 46P.

    And towards the end of a round is the only time you play defense, but that defense is just to crouch and watch very carefully if your opponent will dash and throw if they do you NEVER throw which should be very easy for you if you are that focused, but instead you like to use 2P cause it's guaranteed. I don't know if you know but there are a lot more better things guaranteed than 2P. And if your 2P get's block then it's a barrage of 2P with caution... usually by the 3rd blocked one you will maybe evade in hopes an attack is coming. If you remember after a while I stopped going for throws at the end of a round and just started using 26PP instead of if I blocked your 2P i just crouched and waited for the other 2-3 and then tried to do something.

    I'm not trying to start nothing, but seriously you should check out how you answer to a lot of the situations people put you into... a lot of the times you are attacking out of the problem or quick evade right into an attack.

    Look at some of the situations you put me in like the 42P+G throw. There is no point in trying to escape the many options Lau can get from this throw, but the first time you used it you ran up and threw me which gave you a side throw. RIGHT THERE I LEARNED! Meaning the next time you used that throw again I just recovered a little to avoid the big launchers, fuck the small damage cause it's guaranteed and right when you run up to throw I entered in the side throw escape. I failed on the 2nd and 3rd cause I was confused and forgot the command changes depending on what side you are on, but by the fourth one I escaped and I'm pretty sure I escaped the 5th one too. After that I don't think you used that throw any more.

    That's what adjusting is and frankly not many people do that online. Everyone just runs there bread and butter all day long because it works and no one knows how to stop it.

    A lot of you guys have way more skill than me whether you want to believe it or not, but your problem is in my opinion you guys are not practicing the right things or your not forcing yourself to develop alternate methods to escaping a situation.

    My defense is really not that good when compared to KingofVF of Gentleman Thief, but the reason why a lot of you guys thinks it's good is cause my defense reacts to your patterns. I have a lot of patterns, but only a few players exploited them. The reason a lot of players don't is because like I said early it's all about the bread and butter, because that's what's been getting them the wins against other intermediate players, noobs or scrubs.
     
  7. VFnumbers

    VFnumbers Well-Known Member Content Manager Lei

    PSN:
    VFnumbers
    XBL:
    VFnumbers
    ggs tony and kingofcarnage
     
  8. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Bwahahaha! C'mon son! Bring it! You know my offense makes you do things you don't normally do like ABARE, random DMP+Ks and all kinds of silly shit. But if you think that you can fight me morally the whole time and beat me, be my guest and give it a shot.
    I noticed you changed your sig, is that so that both bases are covered? In case you lose "It's online, don't take it serious" in case you win "Don't blame lag for that asswhooping you received"? Huh? C'mon Son! [​IMG]
    So what you gonna bring? Abare? Moral? Or are you actually gonna play how most good players play and mix up between the two? That's right, watch them Japanese vids again, THEY ALL MORAL AND ABARE [​IMG]
    So you gonna retire me for good? [​IMG] Look, I don't take this game half as seriously as you do when I lose. I take ti serious enough that I want to win, but my pride and my ego don't get hurt when I get whooped. I just try to learn from it for next time and get stronger. Truth be told, I'd rather be getting my ass kicked than winning easily and that's real talk.
    My fun doesn't come from winning, my fun comes from figuring out how to stop losing. I get a bad feeling you take losing way too personal playa. So, come and whoop my ass, if you can. I ain't gonna take it personal, no matter how many down attacks after the k.o. you wanna hit me with, lol. But I know one of us is going to get they're feelings hurt more than the other if he loses [​IMG]
    No love lost here though, Ima tell you like my boy Raven says "It's just business, don't take it personal".

    Rodney, thanks for taking the time out to school me, I'm kind of a twitch fighter, no real substance but every once in a while, I stop attacking... I mean, how else were you able to get all those throws on me? [​IMG] You and Dennis stay helping me step my game up, I'm always grateful. Glad you ain't take my comments negatively [​IMG]

    Aight, back to GGs...

    Dennis, what a kickass Lion, it's up there with Denkai's Lion. Thanks for the games and the advice.

    Rikojjang, this guy wizzizooped my ass with his Lei. What a fucking BEAST! I've never had my ass handed to me so bad in my life. I don't care what anybody says, after you land head toward/face down and you do a Quick Rise there's a small window where you can't block. He musta hit me with that setup like 10 times and I was holding block. I can't blame lag for not registering it fast enough because as soon as I tapped all 3 buttons to QR, I kept G pressed down and still got hit. The only way I can explain it is that he times his attacks THAT well that even online he was consistent with it.

    GGs Numbers, nice Kage man, it's really good to see you being active on defense and offense again.

    GGs ShadooLord, good playing you again.

    GGs Paper Lion.
     
  9. Rodnutz

    Rodnutz Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    XxRodnutzxX
    XBL:
    XxRodnutzxX
    Well obviously you defend from time to time, everyone does... what I was saying is that you prefer attack over defense when at times can be very annoying because as your opponent it feels like I can't set you up. Instead I have to repeat the same thing over and over until it forces you to stop.

    Like when we played Lei vs Brad the other day it was a similar case where I MC'ed you a couple of times and still you attacked. No sweat! Later on in same match I MC'ed you again a few times in a row tried to throw or used delayed attack... nope still you attacked.

    Now I know you should remember this part... realizing you prefer the attack regardless of MC or not I purposely hit you with Lei's 66P followed by I think it was 4 more 66P before you finally tried to evade. That's 1 normal hit plus 4 MC in a row just to make you evade. This is the case I'm talking about so when I used those DM's it was more like " FUCK IT " I know he is going to attack and I don't feel like guessing I'll just take the cheap win, so I DM'ed for the KO!
     
  10. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Tony you hitting below the belt dude lmao.... First off if you think i take losing personal then your wrong.. I take losing serious because i want to get better and i hate the agony of defeat. Second place means you lost to first place and that don't sit well with me. Unlike you or many others im never satisfied with my efforts and i work on change and improvements daily without overcalculating. Do i go abare not much but if your patterns allow me to strategically slip a attack in then so be it. Your Brad offense is sick and ill give you that. But once i elimated your Little patterns/ strengths and flows you stood there like Chuck norris when bruce had that ass hemmed up against the wall with a broken leg and ripped chest hair lol!!! You attacked only to get countered and punished even further (I know you remember that fight.) As far as me stealing 5 from you thats bullshit lol!! I beat that ass 5 times in a row and then the words "No Mas" showed up instead of K.O.I never disconnected on you Brother i would never disrespect you like that. Fuck all the Bullshit this goes for you and Anybody else Who want PC. Im Taking Mines!!!! you went on your hiatus for about a month and you thought you can come back and finish where you left off? Nigga Come get some T-Fam lol!!! Losing is never fun but but being able to right the wrongs in the following round is fun and shows growth. As Far as my sig Goes its universal Son Dulah but the last quotes should be your main Concern.

    "Defense Wins Games
    Offense Sells Tickets"


    If this can light a competitive fire under you then Bring it Brother im waiting. Come get your Diploma if you willing to get schooled for it lmao!!!



    Please people this is all in fun and VF5 so don't get it twisted.

    GG's To Paper Lion
    GG's to S Devine
     
  11. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Hahaha [​IMG] I got tears in my eyes from laughing so hard, yo, I ain't gonna deny it, and I'm a be the first to say it: you facking pwned me with this post. Fucking hilarious, good shit man, good shit. You win this time but I'll get you next time, Gadget, next time [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    P.S.
    Oh and I will get my revenge! :shakes fist:
    P.P.S. All 5 matches were close on my 2nd day back on XBL after having been away for 3 monthes... so you I hope you ready cuz next time Ima be in shape and I'm coming for that ass! (no homo).

    GGs AyuFanBoy, that's a real unique Kage you have. I hope we can play again soon, preferably when nobody's streaming movies or something so we can get a better connect.
     
  12. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    GGs Tony,

    I don't think I actually gave you the helpful advices, all I did was telling you to play with Konjou/Denkai more when you had a chance~~lol

    Those advices I told you via PM were based on my view, so the improvement was good against me. However, if you are already comfortable on your own style against others, you don't really have to force yourself to change.

    GGs to Jeff,
    Well, I think u did excellent job last time!(You can tell^^)
    Keep building your skills man! VFDC needs the payers like you!!

    GGs to KOC,
    I think I forgot to mention u here for a long time:)


    Also fucking ggs to itsgonnabeclose,
    I believe you browse this thread, and please don't hide behind of this fake tag dude. I'm curious who you really are^^LOL
     
  13. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    plague-cwa
    XBL:
    HowBoutSmPLAGUE
    Many thanks to tonyfamilia and adamYUKI for the games. Damn, Adnan, I think we played about 40 or 50. My hand is gonna fall off. YES!
     
  14. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    He is not that Adam we know anymore!!
     
  15. Mackfactor

    Mackfactor Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Vf5sega
    GG's to Drfamilia.

    thanks for the long session yesterday. U had 3 hrs or sleep for work? me too. im exhausted at work. I like the matches cause its very fast pace. I hope u didnt mind me playing with alot of pokes. Im implementing something in my game, I think its heading the right direction. I actually been studying VF4evo gohs. I wanted to try controlling the ring.. like distance wise.. it prob may annoy alot of ppl, since its basically moving back lots... but at the same im rushing in. I always want to stay crouched.. Well, not always but i feel goh plays well ducking.. So i should stop P after the initial p has been blocked.. me poking high high high, is quite dangerous.. Its annoying but, moves that ducks highs can really kill it, like attacking back with 2p, ur like ur CROUCHING IN CH uppercut. GG's give me a shout later tonight if u wanna play, i got no work tmr.

    BTW good to see ur back man, theres alot of people the rob me the wrong way in VF..its not so much what they say, its their suttle arogance that pisses me off. But, you definately are one of the nicest guys around in VFDC. I prob come across as a wierd guy on VF always babbling.

    Air jacky: you dont say much to me but its ok, gg's neways.
    GG'S MADSYSTEM
    ALLSTAR804
    IKAREBOSA73: i msged u, GG, hey its jef.. U msged me back and said " i know him. he is my friend ".....
    SPECIAL GG'S TO WEIAND.
    the weiand FUZZY is hilarious. Ur throw escapes are getting real good. Finally i saw some low punches out of u. GOOD SHIT! finally.....


    my stick shuts off from time to time.. so if i pause for a whole round.. its my stick.
     
  16. Rodnutz

    Rodnutz Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    XxRodnutzxX
    XBL:
    XxRodnutzxX
    GG's to KingOfCarnage!

    And an even BIGGER long over due GG's to Air Jacky! Great to see you still having fun with VF man.
     
  17. Shag

    Shag Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    ShagPSN
    XBL:
    Shagnificent
    That is fact. It is not listed in the wiki but the VF4 Evo training guide explains this in an exercise.

    Basically while in quick rise animation immediately off the ground you are in a crouching state and can be hit by mid attacks. I'm not sure if you can be hit by lows or high attacks within that period.
     
  18. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    I knew it! Myke and I think Plague (not sure) were saying that wasn't true. Rikojjang was timing his attacks to always connect during that small window. That window is so small and he was doing this ONLINE [​IMG] I gotta practice and get that kind of timing down.
     
  19. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    There is a tiny window you are not able to block and yes, you can hit by high as well(Jeffry's K+G for example). However, the condition is way too limited and I don't think it's designed on purpose.
     
  20. _Denkai_

    _Denkai_ Well-Known Member

    It is true you can be low thrown as well if the timing is correct.
     

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