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Discussion in 'General' started by Dennis0201, May 5, 2009.

  1. Rodnutz

    Rodnutz Well-Known Member

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    Any Ninendo Wii or iPod touch 2nd / 3rd generation specials going on?

    Thanks guys!
     
  2. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Rodney, any of the tv at walmart worth getting?
     
  3. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    Is the 60hz vs 120 hz really a big deal?
     
  4. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    120HZ will become the basic concept for all LCDTV, and you can tell the difference between 60HZ and 120HZ.
     
  5. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    120 Hz is the magic number. It's far far far more important than 120 Hz vs. 240 Hz.

    Reason: Most video sources (DVD, PS3, 360, Blu-ray) output images at 24 fps, 30 fps, and 60 fps. Those three numbers divide evenly into 120. Therefore, when an image is being displayed, the TV processor does not have to interpolate (fabricate an image by blending two frames) frames. The animation is always smooth.

    Do not be fooled by 60 Hz TVs that state they have a 120 Hz mode. That's BS.
     
  6. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    What Plague said is correct!! I would also recommend you get a 120HZ with bigger scerrn than spending extra money on 240HZ.

    If you don't have a brand myth, such as SONY or SAMSUNG logo on your TV frame, Vizio is the best choice. My friend got a 55" 120HZ and it looks so good after the calibration!! Plus Vizio provides 5 years full warranty!!
     
  7. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Well-Known Member

    the new baby


    One thing is great about relationships - splitting costs!
     
  8. Shang

    Shang Well-Known Member

    Not really...
    Playing any xbox360 games, 120hz is useless.
    Playing any PS3 games, 120hz is useless.
    Playing any internet movies / videos / games, = 120hz is useless
    Playing most DVDs / some bluray DVDs, 120hz = useless

    The only time 120hz is "suppose" to make your picture smooth is when you are playing original bluray 24 frame film materials. AND.. you need a player that supposes 24f playback (not all dvd / br players support this). Even then the difference only applies to fast action scene that it is unnoticeable to the human eye. Ask yourself, How much of the time on the tv you are going to spend watching original bluray movies per year? Is it worth spending the extra money? Probably not.
    There are so many other factors that determines your TV viewing experience other than the refresh rate. To base on your buying decision solely on this is like buying a car only looking at its horse power. 120hz, along with 240hz are scams to sell more tvs, if you are so into this shit then you are uninformed (or in the case of plague just plain ignorant).

    P.S. Plague: a TV is a device that displays pictures which in term simulate motion, it does not / cannot fabricate anything. And Vizio sucks.
     
  9. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    I agree that 120Hz is only really important for watching BluRay on, say, a PS3 or other device that can play 24f material. Still, why not get a true 120Hz screen if you're shopping for a TV right now? More and more BluRay players will likely support 24f.

    If you try and watch 24f material on a 60Hz display you have to deal with the effects caused by 3:2 pulldown.

    Finally, frame interpolation is certainly image fabrication and can certainly done by the post-processing functions in the television itself.

    3:2 pulldown and interpolation are exclusive terms. Still, certain 60Hz TVs will use interpolation in an attempt to smooth the effects of 3:2 pulldown.
     
  10. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    Haha~ The reason why I suggest Vizio because its price is very reasonable to compare with other hot brands, plus it has 5 years full warranty. More and more new techs come out such as NeoPDP and LED, consumers always not able to reach the best model no matter how much money we spend. HDMI 1.4 3D is coming next year and I believe this aspect will hit on the next gereration TVs and receivers no doubt.

    If you ask me is there any difference between 120HZ and 240HZ? The answer is YES. But you only can distinguish the tiny difference when both LCD are right in front of your eyes. I made a dicision on SAMSUNG B750 and I do love it!! [​IMG] But I'm still a little bit regreted after watching my friend's Vizio. He did the excellent calibration to fit the nature light in his living rom and 55" is really awesome to watch HD video! [​IMG]

    SAMSUNG is definitely better than VIZIO, look at the deep black part and you will love it!! [​IMG] However, I also spent more money and after 1 year my TV is put on the same level as VIZIO, coz they are knocked out by the new type products. [​IMG]
     
  11. Shang

    Shang Well-Known Member

    Do you even know what 3:2 is? 60Hz TVs don't attempt to smooth a 24f source and you are linking shit to an interlaced NTSC system when discussing HD standards. In a 60Hz system the odd frames of a 24f source are displayed each at 50ms, and the even frames are displayed at 33.3333ms. The 3:2 refer the the unit of refresh time of the TV. In the 120Hz system each frame of a 24f source is displayed at 41.66667ms. Do the math it's quite simply. So technicially yes, 120hz gives you a smoother pictures. However the human eye perceives film to be smooth at under 20fps, therefore this little difference you talk about (and trying to justify to spend money on) is insignificant in term of view experience, unless you are on of those people in buys 500$ cables. Then I can just argue your TV doesn’t display a real picture only a bunch of pixels! Ask yourself how much time do you really plan to watch 24f film material on your HDTV on something you can’t tell the difference of?
    Plague, in the mean time I want you to continue to excise your stupidity. Keep on filling up your Honda Accord with premium gasoline, insisting on vehicles with dual climate controls, and get your Big Macs with diet cokes! America and the world can use more consumers like you!
     
  12. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for agreeing that 120Hz is smoother.

    I'm also glad to continue to excise my stupidity. The more of which I get rid, the better I can serve the world. I recommend that everyone excise their stupidity.
     
  13. EmpNovA

    EmpNovA Well-Known Member

    Plague if you want to really get Shang upset just ask him who won the World Series this year.
     
  14. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    **WinX HD Video Converter FREE ($39.95 value - free download - no CC) Limited Time Offer

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  15. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    ***Meritline has 18" 90 Degree SATA Cable for $.99 with free shipping.

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    ***Dell SB has Samsung 2494SW 24" 1080p Full HD LCD Monitor+ Logitech Wireless Desktop MK 300 Keyboard and Mouse Bundle for $279.99 - $90 code LCR4MW$0BGM3MG = $189.99 with free shipping

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    * Resolution: 1920x1080 (1080p)
    * Viewing Angles: 170°(H) / 160°(V)
    * Contrast Ratio: 5,000:1 Dynamic
    * Response Time: 5ms
    * Inputs:
    o 1x VGA
    o 1x DVI-D
     
  16. Azusabo

    Azusabo Well-Known Member

    Dennis, Samsung will be better for VF than a Vizio set, so you made a good choice. I would say the image is also better out of the box without any changes. For the value it is depending on price. You can get a 54" Panasonic Plasma with NeoPDP panel (all Costco worldwide) or 52"-58" Samsung TV (like Samsung 58B550 over the Internet) for less than the 55" Vizio. Vizio is comparable to brands like Sanyo and Haier that might have some long-term quality issue and tends to break easily as they save money on the circuitry/casing/wiring. The founder of Vizio is a TW'ese (same as Mag Innovision Monitor Company) and manufactures in TW and China. Most of the nicer TV's from name brands (except some entry level models) are made in Korea/Japan who are less likely to save money in the manufacturing.

    The panels for TVs these days come from a small number of suppliers, so the image after some setup and using a native source can look similar. For long-term, if the price is similar, I would always choose a name brand over smaller manufacturer.
     
  17. Libertine

    Libertine Well-Known Member Content Manager Brad Silver Supporter Content Coordinator

  18. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    Libertine,

    Before you go and buy rosetta stone.. you might want to check out your local library's website. All over Florida's library systems, they have purchased rosetta stone and all you have to do is access it from a library account. It will be web based, but they have every language rosetta stone has. I am not sure if NJ has the same thing, but you can check before you buy.
     
  19. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    Thank you Azusabo,
    I did a lot of research before I made the decision. I don't have picky eyes but I can tell the difference why SAMSUNG is better. [​IMG]

    You point out the truth such as second brad like Vizio they do have cost down issue for their products, and that's why I emphasize the warranty they provide. It's embarrassed if u have the product made in TW 15 years ago, but now I definiately would choose it since the quality has improved a lot. I'm also curious how long 1080P can last in the current tend? Maybe we need to reshuffle every 5 or 6 years.
     
  20. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    ***Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 6000 $20

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    ***Lifecam VX-7000 $30

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    ***Wireless Notebook Optical Mouse 4000 $15

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    Staples has these tech items on sale. Shipping is free with a $50 order or one can ship free to store
     

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