Here's some inspiration for you...

But what's the "right thing?" In the short term the "right thing" may lend to terrible long term consequences. What about passive eugenics?

 

The term 'right' can have a totally different meaning to several different people (think of the Crusades, persecution in Sudan, Communism, etc). So would it be safe to ask not 'what's the right thing?' but 'what is right?'... Or even better, who determines what the definition of 'right' is in the first place and what can it be applied to???

 

@Colorful_Tengu:

My fault

still a good debate though

Unlike Christopher Hitchens vs Al Sharpton what a train wreck

 

It's very possible, people need to die in this world. You can help people, but not too much is all I'm saying. You may have their best interests in mind but they may not have yours.

 

This makes no sense at all, it's actually a extremely ironic statement. If there's one thing you can't prove it's that there is a God.

The universe or you and I existing IS NOT proof of the existence of "God"...

 

Ok, I reworded it for you. Maybe it makes more sense now.

When I was at school in the dictionary the definiton of God was "creator of all". I never cared for the Religious connotations the word carries.

Big Bang, everything forming from nothingness, two giant farts colliding... whatever, something obviously started all this. Pretty sure i'm fine to label that something as God if I choose to.

 

To be fair, I'm pretty sure you can't prove anything actually exists.

 

^ Cause reality is an illusion right... but the illusion doesn't exist.

+1 to science.

 

The definition of the word "exist" literally translates from Latin as -- to be outside.

So the word is tricky but I guess essentially means the object is not within you or your mind but somewhere outside of you.

However, some would argue that nothing exists outside of you because all things you see, hear, touch, taste or smell do manifest themselves into being in your mind alone. For example, what we see is light waves bouncing off of objects and carrying information to our brain through our eyes, but without the brain to process and interpret that information you cannot detect it and would therefore say it doesn't exist.

If everything we see is basically condensed energy and everything is truly made of essentially the same building blocks that it is our mind that differentiates them based ideas and notions within you and not outside. The way we perceive the world is not reality, when you touch something, that feeling of touch comes from the resistance of the outer electrons in your skin hitting up against the outer electrons of the object. I don't believe you ever really even make true contact because the orbits begin to repel each other before they touch, as they can't occupy the same space at once.

Whether or not things "exist" in the true sense of the world is very murky and hard to argue either way. I'm inclined to argue they do in fact exist outside of you, but what you perceive is not the true nature of what it is your perceiving, it is your mind's interpretation of the extremely raw information conveyed to you in one way or another...

 

Whoa, holy shit. As you are someone from the richest part of the world, that is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard. You're the one who has the opportunity to live to 80+, get the best medical care, food, and education, and have luxuries that most people can barely even imagine. People 'need' to die? Maybe it's the assholes who take the deaths of untold millions for granted that do. Think on that for a minute.

 

Unfortunately i thought about eugenics when reading Tengu's post So here's a relevant wikipedia link and some music to listen to while reading.

This thrad ended up making me sad

 

Got news for you. Natural selection, which is the reason you exist, does pretty much the same thing. Only it's not nearly as nice about it.

 

^ I like how you started your first post in this thread with...

Nine - Ten posts later and you're still spouting your opinions, whether they're bullshit or not we'll never know

 

Whether you want to admit it or not there are millions of of people dying right now that you don't give two shits about. I honestly believe less people is a good thing for the planet.

In regards to all my privelleges? As my poor Jamaican friend said, "I don't need all that bullshit, all it does, is make you fat, make your dick limp, and kill you early. Erectile dysfunction that doesn't EXIST in Jamaica!"

 

Look, you can believe what you want. I don't think it really makes much difference either way. Just try to keep a little perspective, and remember that nothing is a certainty. No matter what you believe, if you can't accept that it might be wrong, your beliefs will usurp your rationality.

 

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http://www.jedichurch.org/

 

For real? They're actually serious? It's not just another mock religion? Well, I guess there are worse things to base a religion on...