[Hydra] VF4 in Florida, what a wonderful thing!

Discussion in 'Local Scene' started by UnCauzi, Feb 10, 2002.

  1. UnCauzi

    UnCauzi Well-Known Member

    Okay make that 2 random outsiders.
     
  2. LAU Abuser

    LAU Abuser Well-Known Member

    ya 2 random outsiders. Its nice to visit FL threads. Lots of real conversation happen here and unlike other FeixaQ and company threads... Frames frames and last but not least, frames. R frames that important? its too theory base . Elbows= blah blah frames.... LP blah blah. E.g. Me LP will beat your elbow blah... I'll gain frame advantage aft blah blah blah... Its all blah n you make yourself look somewhat professional? Littlewild contributes blah blah frames and his frienz continue adding in more blah blah... R they that good when fighting?
     
  3. ken

    ken Well-Known Member

    Frame data is pretty good when used in fighting. A definitive answer to strengths an weaknesses of various moves. Much more efficient than trying to work them out roughly through experience.
     
  4. Enkindu

    Enkindu Well-Known Member

    Hello. What can I do? There is never an end to it. The memory of Christmas eve 2001. I swear to God, I could not hate thee more. I looked up from my martini out through the arch of the bar room door of the Banana room lounge onto the dance floor. There strugling with a tall stick of a man was Venus in green velvet. He backhanded her to the dance floor and began to boot her. God only knows why I did not kill this man then and there. He escaped me and till this very day I had not seen him again. He came through the hotel door with her still by his side, one must wonder how this man hung onto her, who knows? Terror? Beatings? Jesus there is something wrong that allows this to happen. I would have told my man to break his jaw if he is foul on the grounds. Me? I just sit in the arcade lounge, hoping she will come through the door dressed in Green Velvet.

    My Opinion no Mask

    -Enk
     
  5. Enkindu

    Enkindu Well-Known Member

    I reflect back to Christmas in the mountains of Mexico. No one has ever sent a bandit a Christmas card. Still, I would put on my purple sash, wax my big mustash, and go down into the town to the canteena and play VF2. I can still feel the tears running down my cheeks after drinking a botle of tequila
    and singing " Ask thou soul why should we part"

    :::::::::::::::::Me and my fucking donkey ride off drunk into the moutains"::::::::::;;;;;;;;;;;
    -Enk
     
  6. imf

    imf Well-Known Member

    Yes, there's lots of real conversation to go around in here.

    But, let me ask you Lau Abuser. You really play without frame knowledge? All frame knowledge is related to actual game play. You may learn from certain situations what you can and can't do, should and shouldn't over time. Knowing the frames takes a rough idea and makes it a sharp tool. At least a shortcut of sorts compared to trial and error. IMO

    Props to you if you can get by without it. Especially at a high level.
     
  7. Enkindu

    Enkindu Well-Known Member

    In the silence of my nights, when I walk along Beal Street, I think of you. The sound of the Saxophone plays from a jazz club and the voice of the singer singing Beee bopp deee oooh deee oobah boy boy Paaaahh pie pah paaaah brings back fond memories.

    Your Friend Dwayne
     
  8. UnCauzi

    UnCauzi Well-Known Member

    I can understand where you're coming from. Frame knowledge and other concrete things are the primary reasons why I don't play the game seriously. Most games at high levels have very "technical" players who know frames for each and every move. I'm just to lazy to bother learning all that stuff. All I know about frames honestly was blurted by IMF and The_Dude in between globs of meaningless text. I'll use it if I read it I just don't look for the stuff.

    In gaming I'd say in the beginning intuition is power. In the mid levels knowledge is power. In the end it's knowledge + intuition = victory.

    Maybe I'll expand my knowledge base concerning the games I play one ot these days. I might just find it more interesting. As of right now I dominate games for the first 4-6 months and then fall off, but it's all intuitive gameplay. If you want to really get good Lau I'd suggest you pay attention to all the stats and technical stuff.
     
  9. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    Hey Un, I have played you before. It was my first time playing VF4 when I first met you. You play Shun a lot and we exchanged moves. But ever since that time, I didn't see you anymore. Well, at least I think that's you. But who knows. I am the chinese guy that plays Lion, Pai, and Lau. Well, see you there someday.
     
  10. UnCauzi

    UnCauzi Well-Known Member

    I hardly play anymore man, it's pretty pathetic but I'm actually trying to kill arcade gaming altogether. Reason being I've been a regular player "somewhere" for over 10 years, playing some game. Before it wasn't to bad, because I could go someplace with a dollar or even 50 cents and make it last 2 hours. I also had a genuine desire to learn every little aspect of the game not to mention I didn't have any real bills/living expenses.

    Not to insult anyone but I feel like at 25 it's time I stopped any emphasis on games in my life. In the information age it's good that people get all this free info, but it also makes gaming a more costly endeavor. At least in the arcade it gets harder and harder to remain the dominator at any game that has "serious" competition that is burning to grow. They have a world of knowledge to pull from and a community to fight you with. Which means to remain competitive you have to be willing to spend tiime/money to stay that way or you will lose more often.

    I don't have either to spare, I'm a filmmaker both are crucial to keep my forward momentum. Plus being a former dominator at any arcade I played at on any game for over a decade, it's hard to go back to "working for your wins" when it just came so naturally before.

    I often would look down on someone who'd walk into an arcade with a faq or talked about stuff online, why? Because I used to never look up anything online and win anyway. But todays information is much more organized than yesterday so it's more or less a necessity to be involved. The thrill that I used to get at random discovery is gone, everythings laid out on a table for every gamer to see. Which makes for more intricate/abusive gameplay yes, but just doesn't seem as interesting to me for some reason.

    Which brings me back to my competitive arcade lifespan, which is ten years old. Admittedly some of the people in FL have said that they only got really competitive with say TTT or KI. I was attending tournaments with SF:CE and SS2 way back when. Needless to say, "The thrill is gone."

    I can appreciate good gameplay more watching it than playing nowadays. That's why I run tournaments.
     
  11. Jakekun

    Jakekun Well-Known Member

    For someone who doesn't care anymore, you sure like to talk about it.

    Funny things is, I feel the same way. When I was 16, learning all the moves on my own was more fullfilling than memorizing a faq online. Now at 24 it's not so important.
     
  12. UnCauzi

    UnCauzi Well-Known Member

    Correction, I like to talk about me. I don't say jack shit about virtua fighter. However I will talk about me and my gameplay /versus/images/icons/wink.gif
    Ask anyone who knows me well, I'm my own favorite topic of conversation.

    You'll be hard pressed to find me talking about any strategies, tactics, or frames. And if you realized it or not 80% of my posts were just useless bitch fests with IMF.

    Oh you suck!
    No you do!

    It was entertaining for a little while in between work and such. Only board I really post on is this one. Because I have game buds that post here. Me being more interested in what they're doing in the game, than the game itself. Like I said, soon you'll see me phase out of here entirely, hopefully at least. If I just substantially decrease the amount of gaming I do, that's cool too.

    I've said this a long time ago, but that was in another thread.
     
  13. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    Ok, now I do know who you are. I talked to you before about your career. I took a break from playing in the arcades just because there was nothing good to play. I miss the old days with shooters that took a token and if you were good, you could last a while. Now a days, shooters have too much power on their hands so they pump it up with way too many bullets, and enemies, it's almost too hard to win. But I used to play KI alot on xband on the snes and learned a ton of moves and techniques. But I remember you telling me you needed to stay away from the arcade to concentrate on my career. My second career is starting so it's a good thing that the ps2 version is coming out.
     
  14. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

    haha, talking about yourself is always fun. As anyone and they will probably tell you the same. But than again, it just depends on if you have something interesting to say. Which for most people, they do, because they live a life. Or at least attempt to. Only 15 more days till vf4 on ps2.
     
  15. akira2001

    akira2001 Well-Known Member

    Unc, I totally agree with what you are saying. Sometimes I wonder "what am I doing in an arcade? I'm 26. Shouldn't I be out selling realestate or checking my dividends, etc."

    But, ya know what? To heck with it. I enjoy games. It is a nice stress reliever. My only problem is I don't get to play often enough.

    Oh well, I know how you feel.
     
  16. imf

    imf Well-Known Member

    You do like to talk about yourself UnC. And apparently find big piles of shit to eat before you do it =)

    But hey, I have to say that if nothing else we've gotten into some of the best (as far as fun to read) flame wars I've ever seen. A pretty good history if you ask me. Sometimes I wish I could go back and look at that one on TZ. Just for a laugh.

    We don't get along very well but, man it sure has been entertaining.

    I salute you.

    Now hobble off and die. /versus/images/icons/wink.gif
     
  17. LAU Abuser

    LAU Abuser Well-Known Member

    Nay... Frames r'nt all that matters... When u play against a real opponent, the most valuable tool is to read his mind. That can be accurately done by paying close attention to the way he reacts in certain situations...
     
  18. Enkindu

    Enkindu Well-Known Member

    No VF for me today. CvS2 tournament tonight at 9:00pm! Unc bring your s-mode Geese!
     
  19. stompoutloud

    stompoutloud Well-Known Member

  20. gaishou

    gaishou Well-Known Member

    my naughty parts are tingling..............
     

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