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Landing the Burning Driver

Discussion in 'Wolf' started by Chief_Flash, Mar 4, 2015.

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  1. Mister

    Mister Well-Known Member Content Manager Wolf Content Manager Sarah Content Manager Aoi

    It is true that kage recovers low after 3K+G so a normal 10f throw won't connect, but BH is 16f frames execution and it will connect.
     
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  2. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    does any of this shit make ANY sense? RECOVERS LOW. just stop right there. why would you even attempt BH here? what kage player is stupid enough to stand up backturned here? mister - you're full of bad information. i'll bet a million bucks you've never landed this.

    @Ytpme_Secaps have you tested it yet?

    *edit* tested by @Rare_Entity and it is indeed guaranteed. Thanks RE
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2015
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  3. Ytpme_Secaps

    Ytpme_Secaps Well-Known Member

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    Thnx for testing RE, I hadnt yet. But worth noting is its strange recovery, it recovers low/then high, so i dont have the option to stay crouched like a normal low recovery.

    And Mister I thought I stated in my post that the 16f BH could connect because of the extra time, perhaps i wasnt clear sorry.

    Just want people to know why i landed Kage's BT 2k after a guarded 3k+G, If you dont have a 16f throw, just blow my ass up with a 19 or less mid launcher and I go bye bye ;)
     
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  4. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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  5. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    I'll play you with Kage, and let's see how many times you can punish my 3k+g
     
  6. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    Forget play Kage, look in your pocket Cozby, and know there would be another 50 there if it wasn't for your big mouth...

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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  8. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    Was anybody talking to you? No.
    Was anybody talking about you? No.
    Do you play Wolf? No.
    Are you planning on playing Wolf? No.
    Do you have anything positive to contribute about the topic at hand, or Wolf in general? No.

    The only reason you are here is because you think I made you a fool in the past. No my friend, that is not true either; you made yourself a fool because you are a dumb idiot, just like now. I laughed when I saw those CM, Gold member, and that Blog tag every time you open your mouth here.

    Have some thing positive to contribute dude, or take the advice I gave you 5 years ago: Shut up. Son.
     
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  9. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    For a guy that probably couldn't punish kage 3k+g in a real game, you do a good job of discouraging others from contributing their opinions about Wolf.

    I have watched you play, and from watching other Wolfs, you leave much to be desired. Do you know what Wolf's most important throw is? Probably not. You're just talk man. You are in the same pool as everyone else.

    I'm sitting here laughing because people are actually listening to you. I feel bad for those that think you have an ounce of an understanding of Wolf.

    Bet

    P.S. Bonus Credit: Post a video of you actually punishing with 4p
     
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  10. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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  11. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    I agree Wolf is hard to use.

    So you want to make an excuse for not being decent enough to punish. You wanna tell me what you said about Kage 3k+g again?

    Did you just ring yourself out?
     
  12. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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    Again Cozby, you are welcome to point out any error and omissions that havent been discussed on the topic at hand in a constructive and informative manner, but stating "you, as a player" cannot punish 3K+G doesn't invalidate anything other than your troll status.

    What I said about 3k+g is there in black and white. Read nigga? Read...
     
  13. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Sorry, but I disagree. It's personal attacks like these:

    which do way more harm to the community, and discourage people from trying to learn, help others and simply enjoy(!) playing VF, than anything else "VFDC" has done.

    It's sad, really, because all of these quotes were from a single post which was otherwise very constructive (if you even wrote it at all -- has all the hallmarks of Shang's grammar).

    So rather than taking the opportunity to correct some misinformation for everyone's betterment, you just had to lace it with personal jibes at Mister who has done nothing but been of an immense help to the VFDC community.

    The way in which you chose respond to one person's mistake says a lot more about you (or Shang, or both... it's hard to tell the difference anymore) than VFDC.
     
  14. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Excuse me for interrupting, but what the fuck?
     
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  15. Pai~Chun

    Pai~Chun Well-Known Member

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    I played Cozzy many games the other night, where he used the Bryants and Wolf to devastating effect. He hit me with his running throw many times, before I realised I just had to hold neutral escape, which of course, sets up more nitaku around the Burning Hammer.

    A very good player, who left me humbled, but you always learn something from longer sets with these guys, and I include both Shang and Flash also in that experienced pantheon (y)
     
  16. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    There is a lot of disagreement between me and Mister about how to use and play Wolf, what is good and what is not... Yet I can assure anyone here that anything he post/talk about is well-tested and always makes sence.
    It may not fit your own way of playing Wolf or the way you think he should be used, but it always is credible and usefull. ALWAYS.

    On other hand, when it comes to both of you (aka Flash and Shang), I can judge only from vids on internet. But what I see there is strong yomi on one side and lack of VF5FS wolf-related knowledge on other one.

    When it comes to yomi games, I will always listen to you and think about what you post. But when it comes to actuall FS stuff, you know shit.
    I bet that when it comes to FS, 1/2 or even more of that "n00b shit" wolf players you tend to fart upon actually KNOW about the character itself better that you 2 togather. They may lack advanced stuff execution and may suck in guessing or in actuall play itself, but they still know much more that you 2.
    And actually, this dicsussion proves both of this points perfectly.

    Nice you see you find youre wrong in this. Not nice to see you never apology to mister for you acting like an idiot and being full of bad information.
    Also, I can assure you that you owe Mister milion bucks.
     
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  17. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Dude... Your fucking garbage.. Shut the hell up.. Sega removed more shit in FS from Vanilla and R than you learned in 3 years of playing this..



    Cosby.. You my mans and all... But there is video of this same wolf besting you... There IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY.. NOTHING.
     
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  18. Chief_Flash

    Chief_Flash Well-Known Member

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  19. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    I responded to this thread because you called me out, claiming that VFDC is driving vets away. How my response is now "hypocritical" is both laughable and confusing. The bottom line is that when people make mistakes, you don't have to be a dick about it. It's really that simple. Everything you say and do comes back to this simple fact.

    Where did I say you "questioned Mister's credibility"? You're wasting your time defending yourself against an argument I never made. In case you missed the ENTIRE POINT, the collection of your quotes was to highlight all the personal jabs you took at a guy... a guy that made a mistake.

    Now, why have you now gone to such great length again to repeat all the reasons as to why he's wrong? I get it, man. He was wrong! You were right! I even acknowledged that your initial post was helpful and constructive, but did it really need to have the personal attacks?

    Now look at what this thread has become. It has turned into utter shit with everyone and their dog taking a dump in it, all thanks to you.

    But no, it's "VFDC" that drives "the vets" away.
     
  20. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

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    Does not change single of the facts I am talking about. In fact, this even have nothing to do with them at all
    From my POW the problem of this thread is it get derailed pretty fast and far from original topic.
    On Misters topic, my point is that while he made a mistake, it does not change anything about his posts about Wolfs tech being overall credible, usefull and well-tested.

    Anyway, your post about wolf options against BT Aoi is great sum of his options with all pros and cons. Unlike versus anyone else, this situation is pure yomi versus Aoi and I really like how you explain whole situation.
    On other hand, your "defence" on 3k+g topic is what I found pretty poor, especially since the moment you started to argue with FS being played mainly onlie on lag... I mean, come on. Argument that BTBH does not work after 3k+g blocked because of online is about as credible as advicing someone to spam knee at -15 because of online...
    As much as I agree that 46p+k is good option, it does not change anything about original point - that BTBH is guaranteed here.
    I will also like to point out that 46p+k versus BT kage guarantee 91 damage at max on NH, unless you hit the wall. On Recovery Counter, it should be 96 if I am not mistaken (have no chance to test this now, but I think this is the value). 120 points of damage + BTBH hype still makes BTBH being completely viable punishment there, unless - just as you mention - you can use 46p+k for ringout/space carry/wall extension in case the situation allows this.
     
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