Launching With PK's!

i have a list about PK launch. Go check it
http://virtuafighter.com/threads/jean-combos.15834/page-5#post-369629

*Also if you are interest i made a list about Jean's PPK and 2KK when last hit is CH
http://virtuafighter.com/threads/jean-combos.15834/page-6#post-369646

 

Damage wise he will be around the same as the best chars I guess
I think the main advantage of Jean that GT mentionned is that even if it is guarded he has a mixup whereas other chars are just at disadvantage. So if the opponent waits too long he gets mixed up.

 

Eileen can get good dmg against the middle weights using 6PPK or 6PPc.214K+G Against heavier chars like jacky/akira you only get 6PPK if you're in closed stance, in open stance you only get 6K if they don't tech roll, so you can at least force a tech and have all day to use 236P as a meaty to get some stupid adv on block. So we're talking 55dmg for the 6K and we're talking closer to 64 dmg with the 6PPc.214K+G.

 

I just want to mention that OS Vanessa has . It might not be as safe as a and has a shorter reach but, on the plus side, it's mid and crumples for 66+ damage on CH

Thus OS Vanessa's position in GT's tier list is not that penalizing.

 

yea i figured this out awhile back. Jacky 4 example can get up to 55dmg using P~K(Ch)2p9k.on lightweights. for mid weights just 9k and its stance dependent. Pretty cool when you pull it off but its rare like GT was basically saying

 

So eileen's stuff only works if she's point blank with the PKCH hits. otherwise she can't reach her opponent fast enough to hurt them.

 

One of the few instances height effects combos.

 

I just quickly fiddled with something..
Jacky (Closed) P(CH)K -> 4K -> 2P -> 7K = 77 on lightweight (Pai)
Against heavier characters I guess 4KKK is best, some timing required on different characters. Usually first 4K asap and second hit slightly delayed. If they dont exact tech the knockdown, do ground kick.

Open stance nothing much seems to work besides 9K... on lightweights (Pai), can do full lightning kick string 2K+GKKKK for 72 but its bad due to massive recovery afterwards.

This seems to be one of Jackys least useful combostarters (due to the fact that nothing seems to work afterwards) and its not like he needs it..

If opponent is going to attack after blocking P, feel free to compare to P (blocked) -> 6P+K and its 120ish damage potential
How many 11f jab characters there were again?

ps. Disclaimer: I didn't really "test". Just went to dojo for two minutes. Maybe I test more afterwards, maybe I don't, but what I saw dissuaded me from continuing further since this really seems like a move after which Jacky doesn't get anything special.

 

^ I'll add to this. Shun: Opposite stances- PK(CH)>4k>2p>9k 68dmg
Pa,Li,Sa,Ve: OS- PK(CH)>4K>2p>1PPK 79dmg P(K)>4k>2p>6K;G>9k 81dmg
El,Ei,Ao: OS-P(K)>4k>9k 61dmg?
Jean: Closed stances: P(K)>2p>9k 58dmg
Sh,Pa,Li,Sa,Ve OS: P(K) >4k> 2p 7k 77dmg
4kkk ender OS Light-Midweights only.

 

that's right dosha be sad . taka has lots of good stuff about him. I though taka ppp launched or something on counter hit.

 

LOL no.

 

well to bad for you. you always have 6k for that I guess.

 

Oh i didn t see this thread, nice... A lil info, i did a quick test with eileen, van OS can hit the opponent with a 1k. She has a combo too, vs van after pk (k ch) u can follow with 2kpp. I will edit my post if i find something else...