Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes (Gamecube)

I'll probably get it. I'll consider it MGS directors cut. Maybe Gamespot should compare the cut scene length between the new MGS and MGS 2.

 

well...the graphics look exactly the same as sons of liberty (some minor slowdown plague this game). The overall gameplay style will be almost identical to MGS2's, like when you get hurt and start bleeding, you can crouch down and regain health. The tactics (hidding/leaning behind/against walls and such) will also be taken right out of MGS2. The cutscenes will be created from ground up, which is the main reason i wana give this game a try /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif. Still, gamespot recommends this game to those who haven't played the first one...

 

oh yea, the cutscenes will be slightly longer too.

 

just the thought of seeing grey fox again makes me almost warrant buying a gamecube.

 

someone knows when it comes out in europe?!?

 

The first one was the best of the series, and i've only played it to the second disk where u fight Metal Gear Rex. But when they say new VR missions, do they mean it will include <GSVR missions, or completely new 200 missions? And the graphics I don't know why but just don't look like SOL to mee, Snake looks like the one from the PS but just Improved a little.

 

but Metal Gear Solid is not the first game of the series

it`s the 4 game










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Actually its the Secon depending how you are counting it.

 

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I think that it comes out in March-April

 

ah ok thanks /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

*counting money*

 

The official release date is March 26th. (Though some webshops are saying it will be released March 1st so it might be closer than you think...)

And about the first impressions, I'm not even gonna bother opening the Gamespot link. I lost my faith in them years ago, majority of their (p)reviews suck really bad. MGS is still one of the best, if not the best, game ever made. And that means Twin Snakes is gonna be at the top the list too, no doubt.

*keeps on waiting*

 

i believe you left out metal gear solid for the gba /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

snake's revenge wasn't a "true metal gear game", here what the magazine i have lying around says about it:

"Don't be surprised if you've never heard of this game. This U.S. only NES sequel to Metal Gear was developed without the supervision of Hideo Kojima, and the results were disastrous: In a week attempt to inject humor and action into the series, the designers made a mockery of Kojima's efforts. Don't believe us? check out this storyline: As "lieutenant" solid snake, you have to infiltrate the nation of ISHKABIBIL to defeat a villain who "has won the Merciless Man Of Tthe Year Award" eight straight times, " according to the manual. His name? Wait for it: Higharolla Kockamamie. (we wish we were making this up.) In addition to this almost sacrilegious "humor," the game also included a much larger emphasis on action (and conversely, a smaller emphasis on stealth), even going so far as to include side-scrolling segments. Ick. Konami has since stricken this disaster from the official Metal Gear record."

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another "highly updated" impressions have arrived:

Recently, we took you on an up close and personal look at Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, which is the soon-to-be-released GameCube-exclusive remake of 1998's classic tactical espionage action game. We invited you to send us any remaining questions that you had regarding how the game has finally shaped up. We've used all your questions to shape a series of updates, which, in piecemeal fashion, address the main issues you all brought up. If you're a hardcore MGS fan, we've got all the dirt you really want to know. And if you're not a hardcore MGS fan, then approach with caution, because we'll occasionally discuss some of the specifics about the plot and characters here, which you may not want to have releaved.

Today, we'll take a look at the graphics and sound in this highly anticipated remake. Stay tuned throughout the week for further impressions of Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes.



At a glance, The Twin Snakes looks about as good as MGS2, but it's not quite as detailed.
The Truth About the Graphics
We received the most inquiries about the ins and outs of the game's graphics. That's understandable, because 1998's Metal Gear Solid was a graphical masterpiece for its time, as was 2001's Metal Gear Solid 2. The incredibly stylish and lifelike visuals of these games contributed to their atmosphere and cinematic flair. So, some MGS fans are a little concerned by reports that The Twin Snakes' frame rate isn't perfectly smooth and that its visuals, while good, aren't exactly jaw-dropping. Anyway, let's get to your questions.

Regarding the game's frame rate, does it dip in certain, specific instances, as in Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for the Xbox, or do frames drop seemingly at random? Is it smooth more often than not? The answer is yes, the frame rate is perfectly smooth more often than not, which is why the frame drops are noticeable in the specific instances in which they occur. Frame drops happen when certain particle effects are onscreen, such as while fighting Liquid Snake's Hind chopper; when multiple enemies are onscreen and firing, such as after reinforcements have come in to attack you; and in certain areas, such as on the top floor of the communication tower, where you can see some of the floors beneath you. The frame rate drops from a smooth 60 down to around 30 or fewer, in some cases. This is slightly disruptive to the gameplay experience, as frame rate drops tend to be, but it's admittedly a nitpicky issue, and it's certainly not a huge deal. The frame rate drops, let's say, about 5 percent of the time during play. Will Silicon Knights fix these issues before the game ships? We don't know, but since we're basing this assessment on a near-final build deemed acceptable for review, our best guess is that they won't.



The character models are about on par with those seen in Sons of Liberty.
How about other graphical issues? Some fans are wondering about aliasing problems, as in when you see a jagged stepladder effect on diagonal lines. Aliasing is noticeable in some scenes, but then again, it's still an issue with many games. It didn't bother us here. What about the cinematic filter effects from the original Metal Gear Solid, which extensively used motion blur during its cutscenes? There isn't much in the way of motion blur here, but some other effects--such as for the ninja's and Otacon's stealth camouflage and the heat shimmer in the blast furnace area of the game--look quite good. There are no bump mapping or other high-end graphical effects here to speak of. Characters don't cast per-pixel shadows, so don't expect to see a guard's shadow come creeping out from around a corner as you could in MGS2. As mentioned, some other graphical effects are lifted straight from MGS2, such as guard animations, explosions, and blood effects.

Some other notes about the graphics: Although the character models are about on par here with those of Metal Gear Solid 2, the environments aren't as detailed. Textures can be pretty blurry when viewed up close, and the level of peripheral detail isn't as high as in MGS2, in which you could do such things as shoot over an ice bucket and watch the individual ice cubes melt. Here, by comparison, you can shoot at certain computer screens, and they won't show any signs of damage. The environments weren't that spectacular in the original MGS--where the game took place entirely in what looked like an industrial complex--so don't expect them to look too much more exciting here.

Also, the game is plenty bloody. While there's no swearing in the dialogue, The Twin Snakes readily deserves its mature rating because of the amount of blood that's spilled both in the cutscenes and during gameplay. The amount of blood shown is about on par with the original MGS and MGS2, and fans can probably predict which sequences will prove to be the most graphic.



The game features lots of new music, though it sounds appropriate for the setting and isn't the jazzy, up-tempo stuff from MGS2.
The Sound
1998's Metal Gear Solid featured an excellent, memorable soundtrack and voice acting. Many of you are wondering if the music in The Twin Snakes is different from that of the first game, and many are wondering as to whether or not the newly recorded dialogue was done by the original actors. The answer on both counts is yes. The new soundtrack is noticeable. For example, the fast-paced boss theme from MGS has been replaced by something that's less emphatic and more in line with the rest of the game's music. But the overall tone and feel of the soundtrack hasn't changed. It's still understated and heavy on bass. The music still completely cuts off in certain sequences, too. One reader asked whether the game features the original end theme from Metal Gear Solid. We haven't yet finished the game to confirm, but we would assume so.

As for the voices, honestly, at times, it's difficult to tell whether all the dialogue has truly been rerecorded, because these are, in fact, mostly the same voice actors as before. Some characters do sound different, such as Mei Ling, but the main characters, like Solid Snake (voiced by David Hayter) and Liquid Snake (voiced by Cam Clarke), sound the same as ever. In some cases, hardcore fans might notice a slight change of inflection in the dialogue, and they might not like it. When fighting Liquid in his Hind chopper, we weren't quite as impressed when he cried out "Eat this!", since he sounds much angrier in the original game. Also, when Snake is battling the cybernetic ninja, the ninja keeps crying out "Hurt me more!", but again, he doesn't sound as sinister as he did in 1998's MGS. These are the sorts of nitpicky changes that hardcore fans will pick up on, but for better or for worse, at least these changes are there to note and discuss.

New dialogue has definitely been added in some cases, but the core of the dialogue is the same as before. Bosses still utter the same catchphrases over and over as you're fighting them, for example. Hardcore MGS fans will probably even be able to recite some of the dialogue from memory.

That's it for this installment. Check back throughout the week for more updates on Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes.



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By Greg Kasavin, GameSpot [POSTED: 02/09/04 05:32 PM]

 

I don't understand why some people started complaining about the graphics in the first place. Prolly just people who don't own a GC but would still like to have Twin Snakes. From the very first screenshots to this day, the graphics have been everything they should be. Some things better compared to SoL, some things possibly a bit worse. But you just don't buy either MGS or MGS:TS because of its visuals. No. Anyone who does is missing all the greatness MGS is as a game, as a story.

MGS >>>>> all the bitching losers

 

IMO, MGS1 is a legend. A remake like this is something I'd certainly welcome with my money.