Modern Warfare 2

I play BFBC2 with friends sometimes. but that game is just knock off.

I dont play MW2 at all now, but I do believe MW2 is way better than BF

 

"that game is just knock off"

what do you mean?. if you mean knock off as in, copying, then you're mistaken, as battlefield series has its own unique system and ...vehicles you can actually use.

also by the way, battlefield is catered ONLY to people that play in teams, if you like rambo style where ONE guy can win the entire match, then stick to MW series, in BF you are not the center of attention, the whole team is. BF series highly depends on the whole team, not just one individual. one guy can kill a shit lot of people (even coming up in 1st place) and still lose the match.

i see lots of people raging because while they are awesome in mw2, and usually end up in 1st place, therefore usually wining the match for the team (heloo insane perk streaks!) they simply cant win as much in BF, cause they depend on the whole team.

i fully understand why some people dont like BC2, they simply cant own as much as they can on mw2. the usual excuse is "my team sucks!" and it's usually true! . now, play with a team using communication and holy shit the beauty of BF is shown.

sorry for the off topic. gerns, give it up and let these fine folks enjoy rambo

 

How does this compare to battlefield bad company 2?

 

Yeah I meant copying.

But I hear ya, I like using other systems like using vehicles, and I do aware making strategies with your team mates is very important in this game.

However, I still think BF is kinda copying from MW2, its just my opinion, and im just saying, so dont take it too seriously.

I'm not get used to BF yet, this game is too complicated for me...


I don't care win/lose in both MW and BF, but I just cant have fun with BF most of times, even I got really high score (Killing most of players in a row)...


But like I said, im just saying. my friends tend to play BF more than tekken or MW2 lately, so I do understand many people like this game more than the others.

 

@Hazzerone

Ok man, the spawning in FFA is terible, sure. IW should've fixed it when they released the public beta, which they didn't because Acitivision thought people would knick ideas from it.

But shit happens, the comp in FFA is also terrible, if you have a 1K/D you should be in the top free. Play any other gametype for better spawns, and lol camping on a tac , but insert is a legitamate tactic....free kill! Dont use em dude, or hide them really well.

COD isnt the most realistic game obviously but atleast not being able to aim you gun while being shot in the face is semi accurate. If you're getting shot get to cover and next time, shoot first! COD is a game that rewards smart thinking in my opinion, you gotta expect your opponant to be in 'that' place. Use yomi and never get caught off guard because you do die very quickly.

The damage is not random, different guns have differenmt damage multipliers. You can find out about them here:http://denkirson.xanga.com/715966769/modern-warfare-2/

Auto aim I've heard is only apparent in the console version s of COD, which is pretty much a staple of most console shooters afaik. If you're struggling to use the thumbstick change your sensitivity. The default is 2, I play on currently on 4 for ARs and 7 for Snipers.

IDK about the magnum thing, a magnum should kill in 2 shots close, 3 far w/o stopping power. Perhaps he had painkiller on? Perhaps it was laggy and you thought you shot him 4 times. If you got 4 hitmarkers and no painkiller emblem then frankly Ive never seen anything like it.

Auto aim I've heard is only apparent in the console version s of COD, which is pretty much a staple of most console shooters afaik. If you're struggling to use the thumbstick change your sensitivity. The default is 2, I play on currently on 4 for ARs and 7 for Snipers.

IDK about the magnum thing, a magnum should kill in 2 shots close, 3 far w/o stopping power. Perhaps he had painkiller on? Perhaps it was laggy and you thought you shot him 4 times. If you got 4 hitmarkers and no painkiller emblem then frankly Ive never seen anything like it.

Knifing is utterly broken, no arguments there. Specifically commando, my two things that I reckon are properly broken with MW2 are commando and OMA/DC.

Commando in lag is uber broke as people will teleport through your shots. It a poor perk used by noobs. Knifing in general is only random with P2P I guess. I prefer shooting first due to the inconsistancy of knifing.

BTW Ive used OMA/DC before quite a few times lol, so can say unreservedly that it is the easiest,easiest bullshit to get kills with. Did you know DC increases the blast radius of an explosions and also the damage? It like using stopping power and having more damage and bigger bullets. Its very unbalanced.

Haha not gunna happen man, I played the demo, it wasnt my cuppa tea. Not so much for the teamwork aspect more for the graphical style. Games being realistic at least in looks is pretty important to me and has been what Ive been aspiring to probably since I first bought goldeneye (Or maybe when I first played doom on a 386).

You know I am this close to buying BFBC2, I have no specific bones against it, so I thought I'd give it a try but now the map packs out and I kinda wanna get to 10th prestige and a 1.8 K/D ratio.

@Sudden Death

I've got videos of good players from MW2 going over to BFBC2 and owning single handedly. Sure in principle, BFBC2 may by designed to be played with a team. But if a game could only be played like that I doubt it would ahve much mass appeal.

Similarly with MW2, I play almost entirely objective games and if you dont work as a team you usually lose. Sure you can get streaks, air support, kills. But if theres no one there to hold down positions, cap objectives etc. The other team gets an easy win.

I can see your point, in a game where you die quickly you have more of a oppertunity to go for glory. But similarly against a decent player/team, more of an oppertunity to fail miserably.

TBH as far as skill based shooters go, Halo takes more skill than MW2, but MW2 requires you to play more tactically while BFBC2 requires you to play as a team. So it's each to his own.

Personally I find MW2 very rewarding and also at times highly frustrating. Its a lot of what I like a video game with alot of mainly online errors that can marr the fun. Have you ever played MW2 Sudden?

 

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Just a quick point on this. I agree entirely with what ur saying here. I also agree with boris too though. Here's how.

The damage is technically 100% not random.

The problem is, that in online, lag makes hitting your opponent somewhat random. With lag, there are times when u are not really shooting where your screen shows that u are aiming, and your opponent is not standing where your screen shows they are standing. And next thing you know you are shooting someone in the head 4 times to kill them.

Notice that this "random" damage becomes even more "random" when the opponent has lightweight/marathon. It becomes even harder to pin down and hit the target that really isn't where the screen shows them. I can't tell you how many times some moron with light/marathon/commando has been running at me and i shoot them twice on the way in with my shotgun, and then a 3rd shot in the face at pointblank range....but when i watch the kill cam my guy is just turning like an idiot firing 4 foot wide the guy running at me and then (i fucking hate this) on the kill cam my guy never even fires the 3rd shot. Fucking ridiculous.

So here i agree with boris as well. scavenger/OMA+DC is broken. And commando is broken when combined with lightweight/marathon. On it's own i don't like commando but wouldn't call it broken yet.

But i will say, i have had people knife me completely thru wall with commando!!!!! Like when running into the building on Afghan and someone chasing me knifes after i turn the corner into the building, warps thru the wall and stabs, then warps back out and is standing outside the wall a couple feet to the side of the doorway. Smooth teleport thru the wall and back out. That's fun.

Lastly, in my opinion Danger Close should be an easy fix. Make it work only on explosions deployed by hand (hand thrown grenades, claymores, etc). Then make Danger Close Pro extend to Killstreaks. I really think if you take the DC bonus off noobtube it is no longer an overpowered perk and simply a good one.

 

Well you see the inability for me to aim when shot at is massively detrimental for me. You see if I play any other FPS game, say MAG/BF/MGS (online) I can be shot at and AIM for their head. It's not that I can't aim when shot at or anything it's just that cod does not allow for it and that fact combined with lag equates to shitty gameplay imo.

Are you seriously saying get behind cover when shot at? The majority of the time you will either be in a situation where that's not feasible due to their being no cover or can't get in cover quick enough OR shot from the back/side. You have to realise in cod you have 2 shot kill AR's such as the SCAR (well until cod decides to be all fucking random and make it 4 shot kill at times).

Alot of the time I have mentioned the inability to aim when shot at cod fans DO reply saying "yeh but it's realistic" then I'm sat here thinking WTF! Cod is only realistic where it wants to be and that is another reason why it kind of fails. In fact, the whole concept of anyone saying something about cod being realistic is laughable! "Okay, let's make a completely unrealistic game where you have 10metre long arms and can knife people using them, have the ability to call in air support for killing a certain amount of enemies for no apparent reason, where sniper rifles shots to the heart don't kill people, where you run around dual wielding SHOTGUNS, but! I know! Let's make it realistic in that when you get shot at you can't fucking aim!!!"

I could have elaborated more and pointed out how just about every perk is highly unrealistic actually, but meh.

 

I never said it was entirely realistic, some things are accurately portrayed, others not. It is but a lowly video game.

If you're getting shot and dont have cover to get behind then frankly dude you're doing it wrong. Despite how it looks there are very few opportunities for you to actually go 'rambo' and run into the open mowing people down left and right. You gotta use cover, you gotta use your brain. That is, if you want to do well.

 

You want realism play Unreal Tournament. It's about as close as you'll get with a video game.

 

Nothing wrong with camping.

If you can't deal with someone who's in one place you don't deserve to kill them.

If people are stupid enough to hand you free kills then you'd be foolish to pass it up.

I used to play a lot of CS, people bitched a lot about camping on that, generally it was shit players doing the whining.

 

I've played Socom since Socom 1. Had, played, and still have all the console versions. Socom is the ultimate in camping but the difference is that Socom is Last Man Standing rules. I was fucking beast at Socom and our clan in Socom 3: CA went unbeaten.

It's not that I don't know how to camp let alone camp effectively, it's that there's no reason to camp in cod and it is utter scrubbery.

 

I have to agree with seidon if you cant deal with a person that doesnt move even after the game shows you exactly where they are standing you deserve to be killed over and over. He is also right about it being scrubs that usually complain about it. If you dont watch your killcam and get lit up over and over by the same person in the same spot its your fault. Its just like in war people aren't running around rambo style, they hold positions and take positions. Complaining about camping is the equivalent of someone complaining about a person using the same move too much or my personal favorite when someone says the word "cheap" that is a bonafide scrub word. If you get swept five times in a row that's your bad for not guarding low. It doesnt matter what you do in games there will always be someone complaining about how you play when they lose.
My fav is all the bitching about noob tubes I hear in game. Then those same people bitching go and pick their noob tube class on their next respawn. If its such scrubbery why do you have a class made and saved with the same shit your complaining about? Hypocrites are funny. Play VF and have a nice day.

 

No you didn't mention CS but from my time spent playing FPS games I've noticed that people complaining about camping exists in every single community.

If you watch any FPS game at a mid to high level (more often than not) both teams will fight to set up in a specific area in order to gain map control. This is camping in every sense of the word yet it's by no means unbeatable.

I can understand that it might not be fun to try and break a teams control on the map, similar to the way I don't find it fun to play someone who never learns or adapts whilst playing VF.

But that's because more often than not I'll simply be much better than that person.

It's the same thing with FPS games, some people strive to play the game at as high a level possible and others are content to simply run about and do their own thing, trying to have some fun.

And that's cool. No problems with that at all. However, when the people who aren't really trying to become better complain about better players beating them by using strategies they can't overcome it just seems silly to me.

I can also understand that it might just seem boring to you. I can see why people think that. But others thrive on the challenge of breaking someone's strategies apart and exposing their weaknesses.

I suppose the reality behind it is some people just don't like others playing the game a different way from them. Some people choose to try and talk it down in an effort to cast negativity on the people beating them, others take it in their stride and better their own game so as not to get beat by such a tactic again and the rest go on about their business, playing with their friends and having some fun.

 

If you like winning instead of whining then send me a friend request and I will teach you all how to play the damn game.

Seidon right get over it.

 

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it is a funny thing that happens. I want to extend my right to have fun as far as i possibly can on a game. Then i get annoyed when someone else extending their right to have fun on the game (dmpk, camping, whatever) infringes and hampers my ability to have fun. Of course knowing this is no cure to avoiding it. On vf it's a mostly easy fix, play people who i enjoy playing. Ta da. On mw2 it is a little tougher. I get annoyed when people assiduously camp, but i also get annoyed when the bumrush me constantly with marathon/lightweight, commando and akimbo uzis. Why won't people just play the game the way i want them too, and let me kill them 3:1 in the process.

 

I know the difference between running and gunning and setting up.

And I know they don't play the same way, that's pretty much my point. What makes someone a good player in one game won't make them a good player in another.

If you play MW2 expecting it to be like Quake you're barking up the wrong tree.

I guess I haven't really made myself clear.

 

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