Next Gen consoles. What console looks promising?

I wasn't just talking about "digital downloaded games". I meant all games; be it from a retail shop or Xbox Live. You can't do that if you bought the physical disc. At current you have to bring all your discs with you if you want your games library to be available.

The model that is now gone would've been more powerful.

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That's your assumption.

They had a system where if I sold my games, a portion of that goes to the developer. I don't know any other consoles that do this. At present, that doesn't happen, all the funds goes to a retail store. Plus, they don't get any compensation from a second hand sale in the DRM model anyway.

 

There's just nothing from any of the consoles that differentiate them enough from this generation. So I guess I'm not going to buy any of them.

 

Ok I understand what you meant, but the trade off there would be strange at best.

You want to purchase physical copies of games, yet you want them to act like digital copies of the game. However, under MS's now scrapped system, although that would have been possible, you wouldn't have technically owned the games to begin with. And selling them back would have been a complicated process that MS hadn't even gotten around to explaining properly (only saying that you could sell at participating retailers and only if the publisher agrees to it).

To each his own, but I'm totally fine with being able to carry my games in my backpack over to a buddies house.

 

Wait wait wait wait... hold up. You were gonna buy a console for DRM but now there is none you aren't interested. Is that what you are saying?

You can still have this though. Just buy all your game content download and forget about discs. Both platform holders are saying they will have download available day and date with physical. So you just buy the download instead and have all this convenience you want. People have a choice now.

 

Spot on.

Technically (I do mean technically), the games we buy now aren't really ours. It's just that right now, nobody can/will really stop you from selling it on eBay or back to shops.

But this is the thing, not much has been released about it so how do we know it's going to be a complicated process? It's an assumption but to have the convenience, the ability to sell AND support developers is pretty fair in my opinion.

That's fine too. That's why some people wanted to go with the PS4. But I liked the idea of everything just following you around (virtually).

EDIT: Some of my friends, especially the ones I game with most, live in North London and I live in South London. It takes at least 1hr 40 minutes to get from door to door (without traffic or slightly more on public transport). That's why I don't like carrying stuff I guess.

 

I wasn't buying a console just because it had DRM... But the features that were taken away as a result of the DRM removal. I have said that the DRM doesn't really bother me and see that it does some people.

It's not the disc that I'm clinging onto (like how some people claimed before the change). I hate discs, they're fragile and look ugly (I hate holding them). I had to buy Gears of War 2 (on launch) twice within 24 hours because I accidentally scratched it in the middle of the night. The thing I love about physical copies are the artwork and merchandise that comes with it. I usually buy the collectors edition of games for the drawings and other cool stuff (although this habit is mainly for fighting games and RPGs). If I just bought digital stuff, I don't get the sketches of characters and stage designs, etc... Might not be a biggie for your guys but I'm into that kind of stuff.

In my view, people always had a choice? Removing the features that came with DRM only removed the USP of the console for me. I can't count the number of times I read "Just like the PS3. Just like the PS3. Just like the PS3." and "Just like the Xbox 360. Just like the Xbox 360. Just like the Xbox 360." and most worryingly "Just like today. Just like today. Just like today." So I don't see anything different from current gen consoles. Sure, better graphics and new games and social media. But that's about it.

 

Maybe for you guys in Europe the prices are the same. I wouldn't be surprised. You guys are always victims of extortion.

What if you have a shared console with two accounts saved on the same hard drive? If I want to buy a console for myself, can I just transfer the saves on my account over to my new console's hard drive while keeping all of the saves on the other account on the old hard drive? That was the issue I had years ago.

Accounts make things too messy. I just want to take my save data to a friend's console and go from there. For digital distribution, I'd prefer no accounts linked to games at all. Just access the console's proprietary online service and enter your credit card number to buy a game. Limit the download to one time. If you run out of space, that's your problem. You could easily just buy an external hard drive or a second hard drive made for the console. Accounts just mess up that possibility. With them, everything needs to be tied to a specific hard drive.

 

Quick look on amazon.com, they are both $50 for the year. Still seems like the same price to me.

 

Going by this infographic, there's almost a $10 difference between the two services. It was recently updated, too.

 

interesting... Wonder where the original post is from.

 

http://www.heyuguysgaming.com/news/12507/heartbroken-xbox-one-employee-lets-rip-must-read

The path to hell is paved with good intentions. That blog post is too long winded to fit on a tombstone. Can we have Don Matrick's resignation as a cherry on top for this Microsoft 180 degree turn ?

 

Wait... this "family sharing" programme is nothing more than a glorified demo??

 

Eish. Sorry, man. Looks like these features were perfect for you. Unfortunately it seems most gamers didn't feel the same way.

I'm not sure why everyone is saying they are disappointed with the new gen shinier graphics and more power. Isn't that what every new gen brings? Since the beginning every new gen has been an increase in console spec. I know gamers are pretty jaded right now but I think that's down to software more than anything. Sony and Microsoft provide the updated spec (as Nintendo and Sega did before them) and a new box. It's down to the developers to use those tools to craft amazing new experiences. That doesn't seem to be happening that much lately.

Thinking about fighting games, it's really sad that I've actually given up on seeing any new and exciting innovation happening in this genre. Beginning of this gen my mates and I were talking about all the amazing stuff they could do with fighters to take things to the next level. But here we are years later playing the same old fighting games as they existed the gen before (and before that). I mean even damage modelling for combatants which was one of the ideas we thought were quick wins and should have been a given is not there yet. No, still two indestructible dolls hitting and juggling each other around a ring. What the f**k?? Where is the fresh 3D fighter to make me go: wow!

In the PS2 days we had sh*t like Bushido Blade, Dynasty Warriors (when it was a versus fighter), Bloody Roar, Erghiez etc etc when developers actually tried new sh*t. What happened. What 3D fighers have we had this gen that pushed the envelope? In fact, developers actually went backwards and went back to 2D but pretended it was 3D. WFT??

FPS?? How many games can we have of a floating gun moving through various 3D environments shooting at stuff. The same sh*t again and again. Has the FPS genre changed since Doom? Apart from added jumping of course.

But there is nothing Sony and Microsoft can do about this problem. There is no magical new feature that will make console gaming fresh and exciting again. That's down to the software.
/rant over

 

If you want fresh and exciting gaming innovation, then both the Nintendo consoles and handhelds have it in abundance. That's why they're sitting on $9billion cold hard capital, whilst Sony... most likely are not.
What's inside the PS4 is basically a laptop processor, with a $150 graphics card, and as they seem to have abandoned the PS Eye, I wouldn't expect too much of a radical departure from what we've seen before, i.e. fairly conservative updates of Metal Gear, Disgaea, Gran Turismo, some oldies in the store, and then more Killzone if you like that sort of thing. Now PSN is behind a paywall, then it has to deliver on latency and stability, or they're lagging behind again, literally.

Personally, I thought playing two expanded and refined VF games this gen, across the world in HD, with loads of cool custom costumes, was a progression from what went before. In that respect alone, 360 delivered and felt pretty good value all in.

 

If Sony is going to give me somehow MGS4 on ps4 I might consider buying that console (once the price drops). Only thing i every wanted to play on xbox 360 was kojima's game. Now they are going to make mgs5 for both consoles but since i didn't play mgs4 i won't play mgs5. I'll just wait and see where vf6 will be published and go for the cheapest option.

 

I think people are underwhelmed by graphics specs is that the jump is not huge. Sure there's a difference between the games we see today and the stuff on show at E3. But the difference wasn't quite as big as when we had block-y 3D graphics to the smooth 3D graphics. Now, the difference seems to be the additional little details. Or at least that's my opinion.

EDIT: I want to see a next Gen Last Bronx.