No talk about Catch/Change?

Ok, first of all, don't childishly patronize me and expect to be taken seriously in the future.

Second off, watch some recent Japanese matches and tell me how many 9P+Ks occur and then tell me how many 2P+Ks occur and get back to me on that one. I'm not going to discuss it beyond this point. I can't speak for how well you play the game but your knowledge of risk and reward at least when talking about the game is severely lacking. No good player uses reversals on a consistent basis in VF if he expects to win, unless it's Aoi, and in that case I'm sure there is quite a discussion to be had about the merits of her other moves in those situations.

RAW functions as a disadvantage tool, yes. Guess what other stuff does? Moves with evasive properties and sabakis. I don't see what your point is here.

 

okay, i appologise ~ i didnt mean any offense, it's just my dry humour sometimes.

if you want a good match to watch then watch this~

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B-87VX5-cGA

disadvantage techniques arent blind risks, they are solid defense mechanics, it's one of the things that stop a beginner wolf player low Ping and learning some real pressure tools, and not only this, but as i said many times, LPC is a safer move and better position to throw out than the higher risk of uf+p+k~ i dont know which kind of knowlege you are referring to that im missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No good player uses reversals on a consistent basis in VF if he expects to win, unless it's Aoi, and in that case I'm sure there is quite a discussion to be had about the merits of her other moves in those situations.</div></div>

aoi using reversals is no different to any character using a reversal. i didnt state anywhere that players use reversals in a consistent basis, ~ you claimed wolf's reversals suck, and im saying no they dont.

people use reversals on disadvantage to break a simple reaction ~ for example:

> defense> wolf does uf+p+k and gets it blocked~ opp goes for an elbow wolf does a RAW

> common pressure> kage does an elbow and gets it blocked,kage does low P to win advantage, wolf already sees it and does LPC.

the difference here between LPC and uf+p+k in this situation is that if kage continues to go abare with high P because it's faster with high reward, wolf will be juggled in the air, ~where as if he does LPC, he whiffs kage's high P and comes up with a 0frame throw or anything else he wants.

if kage stays in defense because he expects wolf to screw hook, then wolf whiffs in a safe position and is nothing really happens, low risk, decent reward.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RAW functions as a disadvantage tool, yes. Guess what other stuff does? Moves with evasive properties and sabakis. I don't see what your point is here.</div></div>

what you are refering to is the same risk /or even worse as a reversal because evasive proporties target specific reactions like low P, elbows or short range stuff, sometimes specific frame requirements.

my point is that RAW is used like a reversal -- and nothing else ..

and lastly, i dont need to refer to my game to prove any of this --- nor would refering to random japanese players just because they are japanese? ~ why not make up ur own game using ur own knowlege instead of telling me to show you generic japanese players which proves nothing?

 

Japan is the best at the game by far, that's the only reason I'm inclined to cite them over anyone else as an authority on the game. It's really not worth bringing up that whole can of worms anyway. Trust me, I like to play boring and derivative if it means I'm gonna win lol.

 

Off topic... but I think it's funny when Japanese people deny the fact that they are overall the best in VF, but when anyone says "I think Japan sucks and US(the west) is better at VF" they laugh in your face.

Underneath all the humble/cultural thing going on... everyone knows what's going on in their heads - "nananananah I'm better than you"

But practice hard in quest or online! You can do it too!

 

yeah that sort of tendency strikes me as duplicitous and over-socialized horseshit but I don't plan to live there or deal with a Japanese market on a regular basis