North UK VF thread

Discussion in 'Local Scene' started by LM_Akira, Aug 20, 2003.

  1. Koenraku

    Koenraku Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Koenraku
    Re: ...

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    Rayne said:

    Hi everyone. Havent checked the board for months but I see that Elite2 is still whining like a little bitch. I had been very good at just letting him whinge away cos I didnt think it was really worth it but if you're still doing it now after all these months then what am I supposed to think. Everyone on this board thinks you should just shut up about it so why dont you. In response to the shite youve been coming out with:The shoulder buttons was how I was used to it, if you think its hard to press 2 buttons together as though I would have been unable to do that then well...you're obviously wrong.With that set up I couldnt do throw escape guards because you cant keep your finger on block and release punch if they are both the same button. You said yourself I did hardly any throw escapes anyway so why do you use that as an excuse for you losing? Anyway there are so few people playing this game it seems sensible to stay friendly with them, why you had to constantly run your mouth off I do not know. Your best mate Andy hasnt been like this so why dont you take a leaf out of his book?
    Hello to the rest of you, hope you are all well, have completely got used to my arcade stick now and have improved my game. Not sure if I will be able to make it to the competition due to Uni but when I can I will and have a few friendlies. Elite2:Dont let this turn into another lame slagging tennis match, I do respect you and Andy its just that something needed to be said. Bye all.

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    I'm pretty sure you can press guard on its own after the last throw escape and then release the shoulder button. Also, just out of interest, why post something obviously hostile and then stick the "lame flame war" line at the end as if you're being nice and friendly. One last thing, in response to you saying I haven't been spamming anti-shoulder button nonsense on here, that's because I think saying it once was enough, but most of Shaun's arguments on this point I do agree with. I'm sure the next meet will be a different story anyway so lets just wait and see.

    And Shaun, don't post shit about me being two-faced unless you're going to give examples because I'd like to know what the fuck you're talking about if you don't mind.

    Cheers
     
  2. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    ?

    Nice to see everything has calmed down since I was last here!

    I just hope everybody ENJOYS THE FUCKING TOURNAMENT. Leave ya lead pipes at home, I don't wanna go home with a dented forehead.
     
  3. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    Re: ?

    Yeah, I sure don't want no bizness in my ruck.

    I pity da fool, I PITY HIM, to paraphrase Mr T. I ain't gettin on no plane!

    I think in maybe a weeks time or so I'll set up a new thread on Jamboree to get some interest in this tourney and get people replying there as opposed to wading though pages and pages of our conversations here.

    Plus I'll publish a full set of rules too so no one shows up with a logic 3 programmable joystick and starts SPoDing people to death /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
     
  4. Rayne

    Rayne Well-Known Member

    Re: ?

    [ QUOTE ]
    LM_Akira said:

    so no one shows up with a logic 3 programmable joystick and starts SPoDing people to death /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

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    Dammit thats my plan out of the window then! Talking of SPoDs; I have been messing around with Akira recently. Definately nowhere near my Lion standard but would be fun to play you Chris. Good idea about the new thread. Andy and Sean-Id like to leave the shoulder button stuff well and truly buried now, hopefully we can just have a laugh together when we meet up, what do you reckon?
     
  5. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    25th Sept

    Yeah, mirror matches are always cool.

    The joke about the logic 3 sticks is that I do actually own 2 of them...AND have SPoD programmed in on one of them for 1p side and 2p side. Thing is though, the actual stick and buttons are useless. I can do DLC, SPoD, mdbpms to death on it cos it was my first stick but in doing so I also strain all the tendons in my hand and arms and after about 10 mins my arm is yelling "Chris, you prick, use a proper stick!". Also, doing knee removes about a 10 cm of thumb nail every time you use it. Painful.

    I'll add a link here to the new thread when I've sorted it out.
     
  6. Genzen

    Genzen Well-Known Member

    Re: ?

    [ QUOTE ]
    LM_Akira said:

    Yeah, I sure don't want no bizness in my ruck.



    [/ QUOTE ]


    ahem, what about if we "bizness" in someone elses "ruck", would that be ok?
    r is "Bizness in da ruck"'ing out of bounds completely?

    as for Akira talk, i have picked him up semi-seriously, and you guessed it, i suck. i have improved though, i have gone from using this Yoho combo:

    [3][3]+[P], [P], [G]+[K], [P]

    to using this one:

    [3][3]+[P], [P], [3]+[G]+[K], [6][P], [4][6][6]+[P]+[K].

    (which is handy, coz now i can do the DLC 9/10 times from p1 side. from p2, it is more like 5/10).

    i still haven't got out of my nasty habit of using [4][6][6]+[P]+[K], out of nowhere coz i like the move and sometimes you get really kick ass damage. (actually, i have found a really good use for this move, if you use it on Shun when he is laid down and taking a drink, you can do 90 odd damage, (it has to be on a MC though), and as most mid level moves don't hit him coz he is too low, its quite good to say that most people have to settle for low kick).

    Chris, i wish to pick your brains for a minute with some questions:

    1), what is Jeff's 14 frame mid move, coz Ryan in Scotland says it is the Shot Knee, ([4]+[K]), but this move does no damage on a crouch hit, and Jeff has a move that looks more like it could be, but i am not sure. (the move is a quick elbow, [6]+[P]).

    2), what is the best move (for damage), that Jacky can do on Shun when he is laid down drinking/sat down drinking.

    3) " " " " " " " " " " " that JEFFRY CAN DO ON SHUN" " " " " " "

    4) what moves does Jeff have that are half circular in the OPPOSITE direction to his Kenka Hook. ([4][6]+[P]).

    thanks for the help.

    p.s. Dan, would you say that your Lion is as good on a stick as he was on the pad?
     
  7. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    Akira as main?

    So, Shaun are you using Akira as a main? It seem's such a departure from Jacky/Jeff!

    Does still use Akira/Goh? Or just Kage? Are yo uusing Jacky or Jeff for the one character tournie?
     
  8. Faded

    Faded Well-Known Member

    Re: ?

    [6][P] is 14 frames as well as the shot knee, it's generally less rewarding for more risk though. The only advantage is staggering crouchers. If you're looking to interrupt someone at small advantage i suggest shot knee everytime for the mini float. For stagger tools the slightly slower [6][6][P] dicks all over his regular elbow.

    2 & 3 no idea ill go check in a bit edit - Did some half assed testing and settled on [3][K][G] for jacky and [6][K][G] for jeff. I don't know jacky's movelist very well at all anymore though so I wouldn't be surprised if there was something better

    4 He has a few but imo the only really decent ones are his standing [K] and [1][K]
     
  9. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    Re: ?

    Yeah I think all "biznessing" and all "rucking" should be kept to an absolute minimum.

    Believe it or not but those combos are pretty useful in their own right.

    yoho > P > DLC is decent vs heavies (ie Jeff n Wolf) as shrm is pretty crap in all honesty (pretty much all you can do after shrm is DLC, or P > DJK depending on stance).

    The "must" yoho combo is

    [3][3][P] > [P] > [2_][6][P]+[K] > [2_][4][6][P]

    Now the thing is this requires you to modify moves with CDs...one way to solve the problem of getting out a dbpm at the end is just use Akiras [K]+[G][P] (in open vs some you can use djk).

    I think one of the best options to use on counter vs heavies is actually

    yoho > P > P > [K]+[G][P]

    If you've mastered DLC here are the places to use it:

    After a normal hit with shrm against all up to Akira you can do

    shrm > [2][P] > DLC for 62 damage in closed
    shrm > DLC is for Akira and the fat bastards does 60 I think (closed again)

    On counter in closed you can get a jab in and vs Vane and Shun I think you can get 2 jabs in bizarrely enough.

    In open you can do

    shrm > [P] > [P] > DJK/DLC for 68 or thereabouts damge up to almost everyone (the second punch may need a counter hit shrm vs heavies and DLC may miss at the end vs heavies).

    On counter vs some LWs you want to be doing the "staple Akira re-float" combo of

    [2_][6][P]+[K] > [P] > [2_][6][P]+[K] > [2_][4][6][P]

    The reason you're getting big damage on the bodycheck is because you're using the deep body check on counter (probably from the side).

    DBC is [4][6][6_][P]+[K] and if you hit someone on their side or back you can get almost 96 damage.

    One trick to use is de > evade to back > DBC
    ie

    [6][6][P] (opp blocks) > evade to back > [4][6][6_][P]+[K] and you can get some stoopid damage for this.

    As for the other things, Faded just answered them for you.

    btw Ade, just done re 0 in 4 hours 7 mins!!! Got the smg at last!!!
     
  10. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    Cool

    Hey Chris, now you've got the SMG you'll probably be able to get the fabled Rocket Launcher! Chamone!

    All the those Akira combo's must be tattoed on your forehead!

    Working on my Sarah for the tournie, Flamingo Time Mofo's!
     
  11. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    RE 0 and Akira

    Yeah man, tell me about it.

    Last game I did in 5hrs 40 mins and this time I knew I was a lot quicker so I was made up to get 4 hrs odd.

    btw for the rocket launcher you need a time under 3.5 hrs to get an S rank so it should be piss with the smg and all the ammo I have for it (the smg is by far the sexiest gun in re 0 IMHO).

    Oh and if you get the magnum revolver it takes the normal magnum ammo (same as the desert eagle type one) so at the boss fight I had to chars with magnums shooting that leech bitch!

    I started straight away last night on the quest for the Holy Grail (rocket launcher). Billy starts with the smg in his inventory which is just hunk dory.

    Shaun if you wanna know about any more Akira combos this is the combo search thing I put up:

    http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=104269&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

    Boy Ade, I can imagine you're coming up with some nasty Sarah stuff. Oh yeah just to be sure I changed your ringnames like you asked.
     
  12. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    Sarah at the next level!

    Yeah, my Sarah is startin to get really teef, I lovethe way she has far too much frame advantage after SO many move's. The fact that her throw game is IMHO overpowered is TOO MUCH. Although in FT, they have apparently toned down her throw's (damage wise) and have bizarrely gave her more moves in flamingo (the one I'm looking forward to the most is a mid juggle starter in Flamingo). I will no longer have to settle for staggering crouching opponent's in Flamingo, your ass is being juggled! /versus/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
     
  13. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    What about Kage?

    Hey Ade, I hope you're not letting your Kage slip away too?

    I hope to see you abusing some LW TFT madness on my Aoi (well that is if I let you throw me /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif).

    To me it sounds FT is getting a little too ott though. I mean 3 forms of counters? (reds and yellow I think)

    Imagine having to react in a split second trying to get different forms of counters.
     
  14. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    Three Counter's?

    I hear there is Yellow Counter and Two Types of Red Counter's. Now, this may seem like a stupid idea, but why not have three colour's, instead of two types of Red? Or am I missing the point here?

    Chris, Don't worry, I'm keeping my Kage in check, come on Kage has TFT, a thing of natural beauty! /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif Here's an Aoi specific combo and a lightweight TFT, just for fun: (Assuming P1 side)

    Aoi, mC, open stance:
    2_3 [P], [2]+[P], [K]+[G],[P],[P]

    TFT: (Actually this work's on quite a few Midweight's INC. Lion and is my favourite 'pushback' TFT combo)
    [4][P]+[G] [2][P]+[K] [4]+[P],[K] [1]+[P][P][4]+[P],[K] I 'think' it does 70, but is great for Ringout's.
     
  15. Faded

    Faded Well-Known Member

    Re: Three Counter's?

    That upper combo works on Pai as well it's jsut much harder to do needing (iirc) a one frame delay [2][P].

    I was highly impressed with yoro for using it on tsuchikomo(probably misspelled) in ot3.
     
  16. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    On Pai as well?

    I didn't realise it worked on Pai with a one frame delay (I'm assuming by [6][6][2]+[P]?).

    I hope Kage's TFT combo's don't change too much (in so far as removing the one's he has already) to be honest, I can't really see TFT going back the literal 'dizzy height's of VF3. Maybe it's for the best. I just hope Kage is still a demon in FT, cos from the current report's I'm hearing he ain't as good /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif. Fingers Crossed. I'm still sticking with Kage/Sarah in FT, I'm 'passed the point of no return' with them now, but it's not like I'm gonna be switching to other's character's anyway. ( /versus/images/graemlins/blush.gif /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
     
  17. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    Re: Three Counter's?

    Yeah the two red counters refer to whether the move you couner against is greater than or less than a certain damage I think.

    I saw a vid of Akira doing sde and getting a yellow counter but the other player just fell back down as if it were on normal hit.

    God, reaction time will have to be improved to keep track of all these different counters, especially if they have differing effects.

    Oh i was actually using that combo

    [2_][3][P] (mC) > [2][P] > [K]+[G][P][P]

    the other day as I was playing on your Kage file.

    To me it seems the only reason it connects is cos of Aois baggy attire!
     
  18. SlimTYME

    SlimTYME Well-Known Member

    Works on Pai

    As Faded said, apparently with a one frame delay it work's on Pai as well.

    What rank is my Sarah on. or have you stopped doing playing Quest mode?

    Oh and are any more people coming to the tournie? (Any more E-mails or PM's?)
     
  19. Onny

    Onny Well-Known Member

    Re: Works on Pai

    talking of the tourney, it seems i won't be able to come after all. i have 2 weddings and a stag night to attend in that "pay month" if you can believe it, so i'm afraid all my money will be going on lap dancers and alcohol /versus/images/graemlins/wink.gif

    sorry about that. you won't get to experience what it's like playing THE GREATEST BRAD IN UK* BLATANT! /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif

    * - fact about being best brad may not be true
     
  20. LM_Akira

    LM_Akira Well-Known Member

    The tourney of death

    Ade you Sarah and Kage I've both left on Warrior and as you know you have Lau and the Jackmesiter on Champion.

    Aww bummer. Ah well, thanks for letting me know about not being able to make it Onny.

    As for numbers still not heard back from anyone else so the numbers stand at around 8/9 peeps for now.
     

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