Oki setups

Love it , BT wall oki.

 

I just want to finally be able to see the hitboxes and hurtboxes for the attacks in this game. Even that ghetto PS3 emulator could probably show us that if we did it right.

 

I've noticed that hurtboxes are very odd and are pretty generous after a whiff but it depends on the move. Hit and Hurt boxes tend to not match the character models. I would like to be able to see it for once, instead of just trial and error. It'd just speed the process up.

totally way off topic.

 

I agree more with myke, tho tricky could prob give me examples of why it mattered. I always looked at it like there is high crush, low crush and distance crush. And for dealing with distance crush you need to select a move that has "distance cover" . Thats a very simplistic view but it always seemed to apply.

 

Some thoughts on Shippujin oki

Some ways to get Shippujin oki:
- 2P+KP+K+G ground scrape to call out no-tech (discussed earlier, can be risky if they tech rolled)
- 2P+K combo ender at the wall if you get a weak hit that doesn't wallslump/wallsplat like KPK or 3KK and you don't think you have time to get something like 66P+K to extend the combo
- 4PP+K+G after a knockdown, for example after 4PK or 2K+G

When you have an oki situation with Shippujin it seems good to stand at about a backdash distance away from the opponent, from this range if they tech rolled you can hit them with the tip of Shippujin 2K/2KK to hit them low or Shippujin 6P to catch them pressing or crouching, and if they stayed down instead you can threaten to bait out a rising kick by walking backwards and you can whiff punish with Shippujin 6P for big damage

Shippujin 6P and 2KK both hit to Kage's stomach so if the opponent evades to Kage's back this mid/low mix can be avoided, but you can add in Shippujin K+G/K+GK too which is full-circular to cover this

Only problem with standing at a backdash distance is that if they stayed down then rolled backwards it might be hard to chase them and it may reset back to neutral

In neutral Shippujin has the same strong While Running K string that's also available in Jumonji. This seems pretty strong since it has a good amount of range and forward movement, the string follow-up KK is safe on block, and on hit you can confirm up to the third hit. Once the opponent is aware of this and wants to block or evade you can run in and hit them with Shippujin 2K/2KK or even guard break (P+K)