Pai's combos thread

Hi Pai players,
I decide to make a videos about all basic meaties + the advanced ones and share it with you.
Today i started with 3 short videos with some of basic meaties.


1. Meaties after throws and .

• These are the only throws that you can do a meaty attacks. is the best choice after the and is the best after .

2. Meaties after .

• Here you can go with a) , b) and c) , for me the is the best choice, that is probably the best oki/meaty generally.

3. Meaties after .

• Go with a) . b) ,if connect in right timing it leaves you at +10. c) as you can see according to the video in right timing leaves you at +12 and opponent to ST position with free or ,that one is against certain characters.

 

I'll try them all and then answer from VS experiences. ;-)

 

→ →(buffered)→→WS

Im having trouble doing this combo. Any advice?


Also, I noticed that some of the combos that require edc's and 1fk's don't specify where you're suppose to input them. I'm not sure who has the power to edit the combo lists.

 

Against certain characters you have to do something like Evade cancel with like and delay the , ( delay it with doing ) , look to the info in each combo in the list, that combo is against superlights or lightweights.

 

Take a look and here ben.
http://virtuafighter.com/threads/pais-combos-thread.16591/page-6#post-356509
http://virtuafighter.com/threads/pais-combos-thread.16591/page-6#post-356686

 

I see now that this combo is actually pretty easy. Instead of doing (or) I was doing then smh. Thanks for explaining that.

 

I couldn't test it properly yesterday. As I was playing to strong opponents.

From what I've seen so far. I'll use more 1 K +G as an anti evade with the garanteed set up 46 K+G => meatie

BUT once the opponent get it.
The first one use a fast recovery / tech rolling and then STEP the wake up move (46 K+G is close but it is possible to evade) to use side turn pressure.
The other one delayed, with no tech rolling. You can still gard after a move to whiff in this situation.

In the first one situation you simply just have to mix it up with anti-evade game.

 

I forgot to mention that after 2 6 P+G most opponent don't recover by tech rolling. Certainly afraid of face down head toward situation.

 

its just an option if tech roll. Generally i made these videos to show how you can do a meaty attack.

 

Yeah it's a way to set it up! Always good to know them all just in case.

 

4. Meaties after , ending , and .

• In ending and the in right timing leaves you at +10. >> > its just an example to show that in that combo you can do as a meaty instead to previous example (>>) that you cant and in right timing leaves you at +10. Generally i believe is the most efficient move as a meaty/oki.

5. Meaties after , ending ,,WS and >> .

• In , you can also do and in right timing leaves you at +11 or +12 with opportunity for free or ( i forgot to put it in the video ), in do immediately . In do a little dash () and then to connect in right timing. In >> do immediately and last, in right timing leaves you at +11 and +12 with opportunity for free or ( that combo works against lightweights and middleweights).

 

Great videos sozos! I think meaties should have a separate thread as its important enough in its own right.

 

I already thought of that and i probably do it!! thx for you sayings soke

 

New combo with the highest dmg against Eileen and Aoi (closed stance only )

• > > > 87dmg NH - 97dmg CH
• > > > WS 90dmg NH - 100 dmg CH (WS connects only when your opponent has short spacing/distance from the wall) .

 

Thanks I will try that. Currently I am just doing after the so this should be an improvement.

 

Just tο recapitulation and make it clear, these are against Eileen and Aoi in closed stance ONLY!! Also IvorB, usually after you can ending with or , are the best options not only to add more dmg compare to but also for better oki/meaty opportunities!!

 

Ah okay these are not universal. I will move to after the juggle starter for variety as I don't like to use too much.

While I am here actually let me ask a question. Sooooo from Bokutai -> (scores a mini crumple) -> then going for launcher etc etc. But online I notice sometimes people are able to block the launcher yet in the dojo this should be guaranteed. Is it not guaranteed? Am I just too slow?

 

Yea i prefer also instead to for a little more dmg and better oki opportunity. is good mostly for the wall espessialy if the wall is towards you, for example > W! (W!= wall hit) and then WS for plus dmg.Also is good for RingOut. But also can be used for wall combo opportunities if you have the wall in your side (requires to check stances ) look example here at 0:38 :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu6BCVHC20g.

Also your question about after bokutai . Yea its 100% guaranteed, If Bokutai connect is +19 so you have the 17fr launcher for guaranteed combo. In online mode maybe the latency or the bad timing dont let you to succeed. So do it fast in the exact timing. ( btw excuse my bad english ).

 

Thanks for that. Yeah I thought that was the case because it only happens online so probably I am slow and the latency is adding to that. I just need to input it faster.

 

Here some new combos with against heavymiddles and heavyweights that add more dmg (all combos works at both stances) :
> > > > 76 dmg NH - 86 dmg CH ( on jacky requires 1fk at , on akira requires 1fk at first )
> > > 73 dmg NH - 83 dmg CH ( tested against wolf, requires 1fk at first , against Jeffry requires 1fk and 1fk )
> > 73 dmg NH - 83 dmg CH (works against jacky and jean, against akira requires 1fk at )

Most common combos with are the following or . My point here i added these that they add a little more dmg espessialy against heavy chars.

* i will update it later