Ready for a new flame?

Hear hear

 

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Maybe I'm getting soft and sensitive in my old age, but there has been a distinct lack of care and respect around here these days

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I don't think it's got to do with that. I really do think ppl are just rude and 'up themselves' nowadays.

Typically, I ALWAYS open my house to VF ppl...always have...always will (as some ppl here may attest). I'll even go the extra distance of going to the airport to pick em up (i dun drive, so i pay the cab fares)...long distance sms n IDD calls to arrange n stuff....send ppl tapes, DVDS...never asked for a single cent back n always willing to share.

Likewise, folks that had never seen me in real life has done me great favors...(exams, helping me buy stuff...in one particular case, my ps2 n games were bought in HK, shippied over by crourier, all expenses paid by the other party first! All becos we once played VF together)


I remember the very first time I asked for housing in USA, bryan was the first person to answer n offered me a place...and I was like..post #20 back then?

With such great examples shown to me, I simply couldn't bear the thought of being different from them.

Alex in Tokyo burnt me the GG epsisodes outta the blue...Finally seeing okinawa Dave, GHOST DOG, NAM, Jerky, and of coz, Adam whom I got up from my unfinished game n ran over n hugged him. etc etc etc etc etc.

Dinners, train rides, being soaked in the rain or rushing for cover,these sorta of memories are the ones that matters to me most.

BT2004 VF wise, was terrible for me. I havent played since 2002...played little in 2003, even less in 2004...I knew I was going downhill...but I still went n played becos of ' love'

Not just love for the game, but love of the people I've come to know over the yrs. (doesn't matter if they dont 'love' me in return though haha. As long as I like em..that's all I care)

Just remember, u might be shit hot in VF4...but, there's every chance u won't understand VF5 n be totally shit in it...aka kashiwa jeff who quit becos of the very same reason. He got angry n left.

If peeps keep trumpeting about their success in VF4, don't blame others when the shit giving attitude is bestowed upon thyself.

And to hell with this ' pampering days are over' attitude.
Some joke this is.

 

Ideally...

I still need you to lock the thread and somehow allow me to edit it unless you want to handle the updates.

For a player profile system to be effective it needs to be as visible as possible. Is there a way to create a permanent link on the front page since the system wouldn't be regularly updated?

I also need to setup a thread for the event thats locked so we dont get much noise. I remember past events getting way too much noise and some even spawned some large flames.This thread is a great example of too much noise /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

When you click events on the top of VFDC it links to the last 20 threads in the tournament section of the forum. Can you give some page space there for the events that occurs every year the same time?

After discussing it with the guys last night the proposed dates are Mid-March to early April and Labor day weekend for the two events.

Lets get planning for

NAVF 2006 Part 1 with a goal of getting every active NAVF player to contribute $20 and ideas to making an event work.

Spotlite I dont know if having other games is a good idea. If NAVF grows into a triple digit number of players I think we could attract more gamers with the idea of a VF event with other games.

For now, I think most people believe VF'ers dont play other fighting games seriously due to the way most NAVF'ers discuss other fighting games.

 

sup Myke /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I don't really have time to respond to everything at the mo (I'll probably write a related entry I've been thinking about in the eljay soonish though), but this caught my eye:

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The guys in SoCal are special to me. They've opened their homes to me, accomodated me, took time out of their lives for me all because of our common "love" for a game. I don't judge any of them on their degree of their love.

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One thing I don't understand is that some people seem to think skill, practice and amount of wins is directly correllated to "love of the game", which is complete BS. I know plenty of people who love VF to death who've never risen above 3rd dan in JP arcades. I know VF fans who have never even had a chance to play competitively aywhere outside their territory. There is so much more to this game than wins and opportunities for e-penis++: The gameplay itself, the characters, the social atmosphere... and those are all things I treasure greatly. I'm not going to let any amount of dickery and cockwaving destroy the deeply rooted affection I have for this game, and I hope the rest of you feel the same way.

 

myke you would make for a killer politician /versus/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

This forum is a pretty terrible representation of what a good VF scene really is like. In the real world most of the people you play against arent quite so grandiose about slapping their dick in your face at every possible opportunity. Sure, there may be one or two, but they're a very small and quiet minority.

When I played VF, it wasn't about 'the love of the game.' It was about 'the love for the players.' Seriously, fuck the game, its only as fun as the people you have to play it with.

 

Myke, You fucking pussy you call that a flame on Shou, Lesbian plz more like a fart to me. Any serious flame would have name calling & cursing involved WTF? Have you been getting more tan than usual b/c I know it's definitely not your age. Since you've always had that bald spot so it's got to be something else, so what is it?

 

I agree with Akiralove that the direction we are taking is a good one. Like what Myke said, for the 80 or so NAVF players, we already have a VFR called VFDC. If anything, we can adding the event result and seeding similar to TZ or VFR. This would require each local area to regularly hold events for seeding. This addition, however, would only work well in certain areas. For the majority of the states, there wouldn't be nearly enough people to have a good representation of seeding. So again, those who already have a good sized scene would gain very little, and those without a good scene would gain nothing.

About holding the events, who would organize it? NYC? Cause I thought NYC already organizes events, so does CA, Ohio, FL, etc... as seen in the jamboree/tournament thread. It's a decent idea that money be donated to hold events, but why should some 15 years old kid who lurks on this site donate so the 80 or so of us can have fun together? If it's expected that the 80 or so of us all donate money, it might be easier to just say the people who attends pay an entrance fee of some sort. I think it's too big of a cock tease to hold events so people from around the country could get a few hours of time on a FT machine.... how many kits are there in the US? Even if we had all the machines in one room, the time that 80 or so of us can spend on it would be horrendously short. I highly doubt much of the 80 of us would want to spend the resources to travel to play more evo. Besides, more than half of the 80 of us are already playing FT with a decent sized crowd. The motivation is really not there for those to travel across the country to play what they already have in their area. Unless you are doing some kind of cash prizes or something, who knows.

It's awesome that we are trying to push for more excitement and activity in the scene, but the logistics of it just doesn't work out. We can only hope that Sega does something similar to Namco in regards to VF5 and VF.net for the US territories (like how T5 cabinets work) so we can at least have a decent chance of getting a little bit of the fun that they have. I think that is where the focus should be.

 

This is just like that thread about the recording matches and players at once.

I say one thing, you interpret it as something else. I reclarify, since I am the original poster, and you still look at it exactly the same way.

We definately dont need the 15 year old to contribute $20 toward an event they will never goto. What we need is to organize all the existing players who goto events and have them donate money.

The most important thing in all this is to decentralize where the events are held. Like I said NYC is NYC. Ohio is Ohio. LA is LA. None of the events have anything to do with each other. We all rely on the resources of the local scene. Theres no quality control, theres no reason for NYC to help LA or LA to help NYC. Theres no assurance that events will be cycled. Therefore scenes which may have a small chance of growing like Chicago or the Midwest never will because there arent any events being held in those cities to practice for. For each version of VF since part 2 on the Saturn, I've noticed that the first 1/2 year to 1 year people will play together and a scene will start to emerge. Something like this to create player profiles, pool resources, and link them to twice a year national events and suddenly you have a national level gathering.

Think of this. When I say NYG what do the oldies think? Words like Flame, Competition, Japanese players, lots of people come to mind. NYG set a standard and has only gotten bigger each time. I desire to move beyond just NYC by giving other places a chance to see what the excitement is all about. Sooner or later VF5 will goto a home system and at that point its not about love for the game. It's about love for the people that play the game. When you goto an event for a couple days you make friendships that outlast the game.

These events will hopefully create players like Maddy who are willing to persevere just for that assurance that there is a big event happening twice a year.

There is so much benefit to creating a quality competative event. I would fly to Japan or Anchorage if the event had a good reputation and enough advance notice.

So far the way things have been organized makes small isolated events. I can use VFDC as the platform, sure, but the What, Why and How system needs to change until we reach a level of consistency for these annual NAVF events. Think of how you pick everything you do in life. Almost all of it becomes based on consistency. The coffee you drink, the hamburger you normally eat. I want to turn the big events into a consistent production with consistent quality no matter where it's located. Once this is done, LA can ask NYC to help out or NYC can ask LA to help out because we all know what to expect from the event, there are no surprises, and everyone can be sure of a fun time.

I hope I re-re-interpreted things for you clearly.

 

I'm having a harder time deciding which thread here is worse, this one or vanity's street fight one. they both suck

 

I support you Andy.

If we have enough dedicated people like Andy, then we can go make this thing happen.

CMON LETS DO IT!!!!

Dam you all partypoopers for not supporting.

 

Sounds like a good plan to me. Count me in..

 

Myke I think its best to build the foundation from now until the end of 2005. To be really honest, part of the reason I took the effort to do this now is my own time. I really dont know how much time I will be able to use to set something up once VF5 comes out. It seems to me that each year the oldies get older we have less and less time for VF. You are right about needing a common ground with either enough Lindberg setups or VF5 on the PS3. Perhaps an organized event like the one I would like to have wont happen till fall 2006.

Although the post I wrote sounds like I would like to do this overnight, it will never happen. Baby steps are more realistic. Collecting donations, even for unreleased games, is always a good idea to me. $20 here or there really adds up. Who knows by the middle of 2006 we might have a few thousand dollars. We'll get quite a bit of mileage out of that for an event. If some EVO or FT players want to have their money back, we give it back to them.

Since you were gracious enough to host an HTML page for the events, can I also convince you to host another page with a profile list for everyone who has donated? It wont happen overnight, but its good to know how much support to expect looking forward.

From the onset I was hoping this thread would be used to throw this idea around now that FT is winding down.

About running, Its always been my personality to run before walking. I have to be quick and agressive in almost everything I do outside VF. Those who spot a good idea early, are the ones to make things happen later on.

 

Hehehe Thx. but you do know there are alot of oddballs here and there. Painty_J's post (no idea if its directed at the Shou exchange or this idea), Sriders post.

The opinion expressed, sounds like some profile system for active players who are involved in the events and a national organized event would have little to no lasting benefit for NAVF.

 

Trust me everyone if there was a ladder for everytime Chiggar comes up w/ his crack ideas I would love to bitch slap him across the back of his head if I could. But I can't since I'm trying to get a date w/ his future wife's sister who's a 14 year old hottie who's suposely just turned 21 just a few days ago. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

does SEGA finacially support any VF in japan....if so, what about petitioning them or something. There seems to be a good size fanbase at vfdc to sign it. i'm nuts for this game... my parents and i are driving arounjd the country in their RV and i'm thinking about pawning my laptop to buy and old ps2 and evo to play it

and thanks to the vf communtity for all the faqs, and arcadia translations and informantion of move properties, stepping, etc, etc. when i can't play it i just enjoy reading about it.

 

Andy wrote:

"for now, I think most people believe VF'ers dont play other fighting games seriously due to the way most NAVF'ers discuss other fighting games."

yeah, I think it's time to changte this impression. Most of the VF players I know dabble in at least one other game. If you want to scene to grow, you HAVE to attract more players. I think starting with T5 and DOA players is a good place. DOA's audience is about to get even bigger with the 360 on the horizon, and as a community, they're trying to do a similar thing (lot of hardcore DOA people, who like DOA3.1, want to get more serious about gatherings & tournaments offline, there's a lot of discussion about these things in that community). T5 people will probably jump at any chance to have a tourney.

Seriously, you stand to double or triple attendance at a VF event. Worth a try. When I was goofing off with T5, guys at the arcade told me they wanted to try VF, but didn't have an "in" to get into it. It's a perfect chance.

Bryan