REAL Kung Fu

Re: I write legal briefs

I don't know if Chin-Na would be allowed. Can you judge from this?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4500723669114928998&q=chin-na

 

Re: I write legal briefs

I like Chi Sao since I think it teaches sensitivity and the ability to react to your opponents moves in a clinch situation.

I should clarify my comment on touch sparring. I have no problem with controlled blows and clear counters. My ideal is that during these moments the sparring doesn't stop at the "point" but at the opponents concession.

My issue revolves around the idea of sparring for points where the attack doesn't even have to be completely functional. you see it at point tournaments all the time. This type of Karate Tag creates very bad habits and ultimately fosters an illusion of being competent.

GE

 

Re: I write legal briefs

ALL YOU MOFOS GET THE FUCK OUT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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kungfusmurf you're just bitter because you haven't learned how to fight properly.

Change your name to VALETUDOsmurf.

 

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Yeah, since being legally blind doesn't exactly help you used what you're have learn to hit what's in front of you, You're damn right I can't fight properly. /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

Remind me of the self defence technique for the 'gun being held from 10 feet away aimed at your chest' move. Is it different to the guy with no 'self defence' training?

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

GE: I don't see it as a hardline stance...hell, I will defend Taekwondo and a lot of Karate places as excellent schools to become proficient in what they teach. TKD gave me hard as hell kicks, great timing, and excellent foot work. But I did realize its limitations, which is why I branched out and learned boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu, as well as some other crap. What I can't stand is someone saying that you can learn to fight without realistically testing the waters. If you need a life perserver on to swim, you really don't know how to swim (and probally can't even tread water that well...pretty lethal if you ask me).
Strength training is great, hell, conditioning the body is great (though does lead to a lot of problems later in life), but none of that is a substitute for putting on a few pads, mouth guard, and going at it in a somewhat controlled manner. Period. One of the toughest motherfuckers I know is one of my old instructors, 4th dan in both Judo and Shotokan Karate, 3rd degree in TKD (wtf style)...I still would not want to fuck with him, cause he could knock me out while drinking his black coffee...but guess what the majority of his training revolved around, live, full contact sparring, not forms, not waving hands in the air, not calling for the force and dressing up in darth vader costumes and then jump in the air and screaming for 3 minutes like you just got kicked in the nuts (thank you NASKA for proving that ballet with pre-teen yelps and screams could be sold as martial arts).

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

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Remind me of the self defence technique for the 'gun being held from 10 feet away aimed at your chest' move. Is it different to the guy with no 'self defence' training?

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Not meant to be a personal attack Lol but why keep mentioning guns everytime you post, the thread is a martial arts discussion as far as I gather.

Whats the defence for a nuke aimed 100 miles away with a gun? /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

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Remind me of the self defence technique for the 'gun being held from 10 feet away aimed at your chest' move. Is it different to the guy with no 'self defence' training?

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already been established. The disadvantage is equal. I know it's hard but please keep up.

Dean, I meant more for your blood pressure. You seem to take this too personally.

GE

 

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hehe....yeah, I do have a tendency to get riled up . Its more passion than it is taking it personaly /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
My friend had a quote about obession...something like obsession is what the lazy call the motivated or some shit like that.

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

Caveman telling me to keep up? /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif.
respect you!
my post in this subject are easy to ignore, and obviously jokes.
Don't switch it.

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

me always say keep up
me no get joke not involve hammer or banana peel
me no switch

GE

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

"Obsession is love gone haywire" /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No matter if it's a girl or a game ^^

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

Using Google video I just wanted to show a few clips that aren't as barbarous as some we've seen using ground fighting.

What isn't the point: this style PWNS that style! representatives of an art are what they are: People choosing to represent a particular style. They aren't that style. to say, based on a video clip or a single fight, that style A is ineffective or useless is incorrect thinking since it is the person and *training* that should be judged not the umbrella style.

What is the point: I like Martial Arts discussion whether I am being shouted at or agreed with. maybe this will foster more.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-531199038442408361&q=ufc

a nice example of very specific training that can accomplish two things: takes the fight to the ground and ends a fight with a minimal amount of effing around. leg locks are extremely painful just in case anyone thinks otherwise.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7076063312262742465&q=kung+fu

A gracie challenge clip. What a man boasts he can do and what he can do are two different things. What I find interesting about this clip is that royce can take his time with his opponent because of the lack of threat and *not* use excessive force. The strikes to the head are minimal and, really, meant to illustrate the complete domination tat can occur when one doesn't broaden their training to reflect situations that can occur.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3405949668907036227&q=karate

Long video that I don't suggest you watch since it is very bad but it *does* illustrate the problem in today's teaching and the tournament mentality. I find it amusing when its the little kids but when you advance and see teens and higher doing the same thing....wow.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1564000965967411931

Here's the best and probably most truthful.


GE

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1417808943864224921&q=bruce+lee

hour long film on Bruce Lee. I've only watched 10 or so minutes but thought it was an interesting find.

GE

 

Re: The fallacy of 'self defence' in the modern world.

This was an interesting film...it basically seemed like a TON of photage was put together with narrative voice overs spliced in. Pretty cool stuff though.

 

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That Bruce Lee video was... awesome. Truly incredible. Now I know why my TaiChi grandmaster respects him so much. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

It's almost the same. He learned to express himself within the philosophy of WIngChun, but didn't let himself be bound by the physical techniques ^^

 

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I want to be Bruce Lee.

Such amazing natural talent....

 

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Yeah definitely a guy ahead of his times, I can only imagine how much better and better his films would have got had he not died. That fact that he was starting to fit in submitions into the action scenes was sick (see Karem Abdul Jabar uncut fight) /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif
p.s I just found out have to save the files, drag them from your web browser temp cache, can't believe I didn't know this before /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

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Gene Lebell choked bruce out . Bruce was awesome. RIP hommie.