Shun VF5FS Combo Thread

Neonomide · Nov 28, 2012

All Shun's combo starters for reference should be below, for combo research purposes.

These and many other moves allow additional hits after wall hits at different ranges so they also practically become combo starters, so this list is only for NH and CH in bare ground no-wall situations. Similar changes happen in BT and side (crumble) situations (not analyzed here).

Below is the short and sweet list of all Shun's launchers without wall (wall launcher and side launcher ones will be added later), put in raw order by my view on relative importance and stance requirements:

236 P (6+ DP)
236 P P (8+ DP)
2_3 P (CH)
1 P+K
8 K+G
6 K+G
66 K
4 P P (CH)
46 P (P P) P+K (CH)
6 K (CH)
K (CHOU, CH)
1 K+G (CH)
4 P+K+G P
1/7 P+K+G P+K
214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)
214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)
214 K K (second K hits CH)
3P (CH, 23+ DP)
3K P (CH)
P 4K (CH)
6 P+K P
4K P
K+G P
3 P+K (full charge)
6 P+K+G K
6 P+K+G P+K (CH)
PPPK (CH)
K (jump, when descending)
9K+G
P K (CH)

41236 P+G (10+ DP)
6 P+G (follow ups depend on reaction)

P+G (Oushin)
K (Oushin, head towards)
P+K (Oushin)

K (Zabantetsu)
2 K (Zabantetsu)
P+K (Tentouritsu)
K+G (Tentouritsu)

2K (Soukokukyu, CH)
P+K P P (Soukokukyu)
K+G (Soukokukyu)
P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)
K (Soukokukyu, BT)

I'd maybe add some moves that naturally start a short combo but follow ups are more limited and involve more of a visual cue (ie a small float, hit stun etc) than natural strings (but just an extra hit or so). The moves and most common (or the only) linking attacks are below:

46 P+K (+15 on hit) -> PP (at 4+ DP)
K K 2P K (last K launches on CH hit, gonna add this soon too!)
1P (CH at 7+ DP) -> K ( the sweep)
K+G (BT) -> another K+G (BT)
K+G_ (to CHOU) P (CH, at +12) -> 46PPP guaranteed.

The second hit launches in 214KK and 214 K K (second K hits CH) and is guaranteed if the first one hits. Also, in 236PP the first punch launches and the other just adds to the injury after 2 more DPs at 8 DP.

Some brave hit analysis so far to straighten things out a bit:

- 4P P (CH) and 46 P P+K (CH) have essentially the same hit effect, but 4P P keeps the stance and 46 P P+K changes it (from Open to Closed and vice versa). Their float differs too, as CH to low attacks float HIGHER than to standing attacks. I found this out when adding combos to Jacky so I think this should be updated to former characters (Taka, Jeffry, Wolf, Akira) so.

- low launchers often allow for identical combos between characters, so I'll try to bunch them up when appropriate to reduce clutter (at some time).

- Some moves allow for better combos on CH than on normal hit which should be taken into consideration too, like 236P and 236PP. This is marked before the combo in brackets (as well as DP requirements and stance Open/Closed).

See the hangover? I think I'll start my own combo testing on Taka, since he's fat and combos less than that list suggests. (and he's a nightmare to play against)

Neonomide · Jul 10, 2014

Taka!

Since Jean is the only one who has more dojo dmg (K on CH) I'll write up what I see since it's easier for now. Dmg here is noted on minimal drinks possible to perform the combo. Damage is per NH unless launcher needs a CH. Several combos are noted per launcher if stances differ, dmg is close by, oki may be better and/or Shun can drink during a combo. I try to find a max dmg solution for every launcher, of course.

- 236 P (6+ DP)

(Closed) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(Closed) PP4PP = 56 dmg
(Closed) 6 K+G, 66K = 55 dmg
(Open) 46 PPP P+K = 52 dmg
(Open) PP4PP = 49 dmg
PP4P P+K+G = 46 dmg (+1 DP)

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

43 P+K P = 60 dmg
(Closed) 6 K+G, 66 P+K (P+K+G) = 57 dmg
6PP = 55 dmg

- 2_3 P (CH)

K K P = 62 dmg
6_P, PP4P P+K+G = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, PPP = 59 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

- 1 P+K

6_P, 6P P = 50 dmg (slightly delay P on Closed)
(Closed) 6K, P = 47 dmg
44, 7P = 45 dmg
PP4P P+K+G = 45 dmg (+1 DP)
6 P+K = 36 dmg (+5 DP)

- 8 K+G

OM, 2P, 46PPP = 46 dmg (not working in Open to Taka's back)
PP4P P+K+G = 45 dmg (+1 DP)
44, 7P (pounce) = 45 dmg
PPP = 44 dmg
6PP = 43 dmg
6P+K = 36 dmg (+5 DP)

- 6 K+G

8P (pounce) = 49 dmg
43P+K = 41 dmg

- 66K

PP4P P+K+G = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
PPP = 48 dmg
3KP = 46 dmg

- 4 P P (CH) (4 DP)
- 46 P (P P) P+K (CH) (2 DP)

1P = 38 dmg
3P = 36 dmg

- 6 K (CH)

P = 42 dmg

- 1 K+G (CH)

7P (pounce) = 55 dmg
8P (pounce) = 52 dmg
43 P+K = 46 dmg

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, PP4P, P+K+G = 62 dmg (+1 dp)
6 K+G, PPP = 61 dmg
6 K+G, 6P P = 60 dmg

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

PP4P = 60 dmg (4 DP)
P, PP4P, P+K+G = 54 dmg
P, 46PPP = 52 dmg

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

PP4P = 67 dmg
P, PP4P, P+K+G = 61 dmg
P, PPP = 60 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

P, K (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

- 6 P+K P

PP4P P+K+G = 62 dmg
PPP = 61 dmg

- 4K P

PP4P P+K+G = 52 dmg
PPP = 51 dmg
6 P+K = 38 (+5 DP)

- K+G P

6 K+G, PP4P P+K+G = 62 dmg
6 K+G, PPP = 61 dmg

- 3 P+K (full charge)

6P P = 61 dmg

- 6 P+K+G K

PP4P P+K+G = 55 dmg
PPP = 54 dmg

- PPPK (CH)

1P = 47 dmg
3P = 45 dmg

- K (jump, when descending)

8P = 42 dmg

- 41236 P+G (10+ DP)

236P, 3P P K (P+K+G) = 54 dmg

- 6 P+G (follow ups depend on reaction)

1 P+K, PP4P = 45 dmg (turn on place)
1 P+K, PPP = 44 dmg (turn on place)
1 P+K, 8P (pounce) = 42 dmg (turn front/back)
6P P = 34 dmg (crouch and turn)

- P+G (Oushin)
- P+G (BT Oushin)

6_P, 6P P = 55 dmg
KKP = 53 dmg (+3 no KD)
PP4P P+K+G = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
PPP = 49 dmg

- K (Oushin, head towards)

OM, 2P, 46PPP = 46 dmg (not working in Open to Taka's back)
PP4P P+K+G = 45 dmg (+1 DP)
BD, 7P (pounce) = 45 dmg
PPP = 44 dmg
6P P = 43 dmg
6 P+K = 36 dmg (+5 DP)

- P+K (Oushin)

6 K+G, PP4P P+K+G = 63 dmg
6 K+G, PPP = 62 dmg

- K (Zabantetsu)

PP4P P+K+G = 45 dmg
PPP = 44 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu, CH)

7P = 52 dmg
8P = 49 dmg
43 P+K = 43 dmg

- K+G (Tentouritsu)

OM, 2P, 46PPP = 51 dmg (not working in Open to Taka's back)
PP4P P+K+G = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
66, 7P (pounce) = 50 dmg
PPP = 49 dmg
6P P = 48 dmg
6 P+K = 41 dmg (+5 DP)

- 2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

7 P (pounce) = 55 dmg
6_PPP = 54 dmg
8 P (pounce) = 52 dmg
46PPP = 51
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

- P+K P P (Soukokukyu)

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- K+G (Soukokukyu)

PP4P P+K+G = 48 dmg (+1 DP)
PPP = 47 dmg

- P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

KKP = 55 dmg

- K (Soukokukyu, BT)

OM, 2P, 46PPP = 46 dmg (not working in Open to Taka's back)
PP4P P+K+G = 45 dmg (+1 DP)
BD, 7P (pounce) = 45 dmg
PPP = 44 dmg
6P P = 43 dmg
6 P+K = 36 dmg (+5 DP)

Stuff above is on minimal drinks, so next Taka edition should be beefed by 46 P(PP) P+K, 43 P+K P and 236 KPP. Help please!

Chill · Nov 29, 2012

Nice one, this thread needs some good Taka combos!

I've edited my previous post to include more accurate damage/conditions and another Chouwan combo.

Neonomide · Dec 22, 2012

Sorry for a delay, things seem to get a lot more unified after the fat bastard is of the hook. I'll fuse the stuff when I'm pretty much done (and ready to move to Wolf/Jeff).

I had no time or money to setup any P+K P P (Soukokukyu) combos yet so help please!

More Taka combos, this time for more than 0 (or minimal) Drink Points !

- 236 P (6+ DP)

(Closed) 236 P, 6 K+G, 66 (short dash), 43 P+K, P = 68 dmg

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

no new combos

- 2_3 P (CH)

6_P, 46PPP P+K = 69 dmg (6 DP)
3P P K (P+K+G) = 64 dmg (8 DP)
K K 2P K = 80 dmg (16 DP)

- 1P (CH, 7 DP)

K = 44 dmg

- 1 P+K

(Closed) 6KPP = 58 dmg (4 DP)
PP4PP = 56 dmg (4 DP)
46PPP P+K = 52 dmg (6 DP)

- 8 K+G

PP4PP = 56 dmg (4 DP)
46 PPP P+K = 52 dmg (6 DP)

- 6 K+G

no new combos

- 66 K

PP4PP = 60 dmg (4 DP)

- 4 P P (CH, 4 DP)

6PP = 48 dmg
1P = 38 dmg

- 46 P (P P) P+K (CH) (2 DP)

6PP = 48 dmg

- 6 K (CH)

PP = 53 dmg (4 DP)

- 1 K+G (CH)

43 P+K P = 60 dmg (8 DP)

- 4 P+K+G P

66 P+K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg (8 DP)

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, 43 P+K P = 68 dmg (8 DP)

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

no new combos

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

no new combos

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

P K (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

- 3K P (CH) (21 DP)

PP4PP = 61 dmg

- 6 P+K P

46 PP P+K = 61 dmg (4 DP)
43 P+K = 67 dmg (8 DP)

- 4K P

PP4PP = 58 dmg
6_P, 46PPP P+K = 61 dmg (6 DP)
236 KPP = 58 dmg (8 DP)
3PPK (P+K+G) = 56 dmg (8 DP)

- K+G P

no new combos

- 3 P+K (full charge)

no new combos

- 6 P+K+G K

PP4PP = 66 dmg (4 DP)

- PPPK (CH)

PP4PP = 70 dmg (4 DP)

- K (jump, when descending)

43 P+K P = 50 dmg (8 DP)

- 41236 P+G (10+ DP)

236P, 66 P+K (P+K+G) = 39 dmg

- 6 P+G (follow ups depend on reaction)

1 P+K, PP4PP = 59 dmg (4 DP)
1 P+K, 46 PPP P+K = 54 dmg (6 DP)

- P+G (Oushin)

1 P+K, PP4PP = 61 dmg (4 DP)
236P, PP4PP = 61 dmg (6 DP)
236PP, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg (8 DP)

- K (Oushin, head towards)

PP4PP = 56 dmg (4 DP)
46PPP P+K = 52 dmg (6 DP)
43 P+K = 50 (8 DP)

- P+K (Oushin)

(Closed) 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 74 dmg (6 DP)
6K+G, 43P+K P = 69 dmg (8 DP)

to be continued.....

- K (Zabantetsu)

PP4PP = 56 dmg (4 DP)
46PPP P+K = 52 dmg (6 DP)

- 2 K (Zabantetsu, CH or 14 DP)

6_PP4PP = 58 dmg (4 DP)
46PPP P+K = 54 dmg (6 DP)

- K+G (Tentouritsu)

46PPP P+K = 58 dmg (6 DP)
43 P+K P = 55 dmg (8 DP)

- 2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

PP4PP = 66 dmg (4 DP)
46PPP P+K = 62 dmg (6 DP)

- K+G (Soukokukyu)

PP4PP = 59 dmg (4 DP)

- P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

PP4PP = 60 dmg (4 DP)

- K (Soukokukyu, BT)

PP4PP = 56 dmg (4 DP)

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in, CH)

at +15. 1P+K combos.

In general, the trend seems to be that Shun gets many max combo finishers at 4-6 DP range, which is interesting compared to rest of the cast. PP4PP is the winner here, really useful after 4 DP. Even so I got tired of listing less dmg combos for less used combostarters.

PrivatSnowBalls · Dec 22, 2012

no stance 6p+kp6pp no drinks 60 damg

Chill · Dec 27, 2012

A couple more Taka combos:

(closed, +8 DP) - , (short dash ), , (damage 68)

(or ) , (0 DP) - , (damage 62) (the last hit of won't hit, so there isn't the usual +4 DP combo here)

(or ) ,(+8 DP) - , , (damage 68)

Also Neo I think for the combos you've got the damage on CH listed? An interesting tidbit I found - From +6 DP onwards, will generally do 1 dmg point more than as result of the DP damage modifier.

Neonomide · Jan 7, 2013

Thanks for for the tip, I'll fix the post to reflect that.

PS: A pretty shitty start new year 4 me, but I'll finally put some combos to resources section very soon and move to other characters then (Wolf and Jeff). Back 2 bsnss!

EDIT: That new 1/7 P+K+G combo actually was in my 0 DP post, but I added P+K+G for additional drink after PP4P for benefit.

Neonomide · Jan 14, 2013

Ok so I put a few Chouwan combos to "official section" up there but it was more of a learning session. I'm still figuring out stuff. More to come real soon.

I added 46 P+K to launchers, since it very much guarantees stuff like PP after NH. Similar other stuff will include CHOU P (CH) at least and of course side stuff.

Also, I plan to add MAX notation to max damage combo within each incremental DP count (only to those notated as new combos emerge then), I guess with numbers which I allocate to each combo within a specific launcher with first one having the biggest dmg etc, simply because lower DP unlocked combos may be stronger and higher DP moves rather bring new Oki options etc. (soon updated to Taka too!).

Jeffry!

- 236 P (6+ DP)

236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
(Open) PP, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
P, 1P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 3KP = 50 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 46 dmg

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

236 KP, 43 P+K P = 80 dmg (slight delay on 2nd launcher P on CH)
(Closed) 236 KP, 46 PP P+K = 73 dmg
P, 236 KPP = 71 dmg
P, PP4PP = 69 dmg
P, 236 KPP = 63 dmg

- 2_3 P (CH)

2P, 6_P, 1P K = 69 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 65 dmg
2P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 56 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_PP4PP = 70 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 2P, 236 KP, 43 P+K = 73 dmg (slight delay on 2P)
(6 DP, Closed) 2P, 236 KPP = 69 dmg (slight delay on 2P and last P in 236 KPP)
(6 DP) 6K, PP = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 72 dmg

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Open) P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46 PPP (+K = 58 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg

- 8 K+G

P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) dash, 6_KPP = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Open) P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg
(8 DP) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

- 66 K

(Closed) KKP = 56 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 54 dmg
P, 3 KP 53 dmg
(Closed) 46 P+K, P = 52 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP)

1 P = 38 dmg
3 P = 36 dmg

(8 DP) 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

- 46 P (P P) P+K (CH) (2+ DP)

1 P = 38 dmg
3 P = 36 dmg

(8 DP) 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

- 6 K (CH)

KP = 57 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1 P K = 62 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 1 KK = 53 dmg
2P, 43 P+K = 51 dmg
2P, 66 K = 51 dmg
2P, 33P = 49 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

- 4 P+K+G P

(8 DP) 66 P+K (P+K+G) = 41 dmg

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, P, 46 PPP = 64 dmg
6 K+G, PPP = 61 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
KKP = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 76 dmg
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PPP = 63 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP)236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

PP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg
P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
PK (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

- 3K P (CH)

P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (4K to SOU) = 47 dmg
P, 6 PP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, 236 KPP = 59 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg

- P 4K (CH)

K+G = 47 dmg

- 6 P+K P

6_PPP = 61 dmg
6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg

(4 DP) PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 46 PPP P+K (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

- 4K P

2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, dash, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg

- 3 P+K (full charge)

1 P = 52 dmg
3 P = 50 dmg

(CH) P, 2P, 6 PP = 93 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 87 dmg (+1 DP)

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4P = 98 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, 8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 111 dmg

- 6 P+K+G K

(1 DP) 1 P K = 51 dmg
(Closed, 1 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
(Open, 1 DP) 46 PPP = 45 dmg

(Closed, 4 DP) 6_PP4P = 59 dmg
(Open, 6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 55 dmg

- PPPK (CH)

1P K = 61 dmg
46 PPP = 55 dmg

(Closed, 6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(Open, 8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 58 dmg
6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 45 dmg

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

- 6 P+G (follow-ups depend on reaction)

1 P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg
6 PP = 34 dmg

- P+G (Oushin)

46 P+K P = 45 dmg
1 P+K combos (add 5 dmg)

(6 DP) 236 P combos (add 5 dmg)
(8 DP) 236 P P combos (add 5 dmg)

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg
1P K = 47 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1 P K = 50 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (5 DP)

(6 DP) = 2P, 46 PPP P+K (54 dmg)

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

1P = 37 dmg

(CH) PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(CH) PPP (4K to SOU) = 60 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) PP4PP = 72 dmg

- K+G (Tentouritsu)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

1 P K = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg

(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4P = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg

-K (Soukokukyu, BT)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in, CH)

at +15. 1P+K combos.

Yea must check the dmg later for copycat launchers...

Old complains apply: I still haven't grasped the nuances of 6 P+G throw and cannot setup (as it's a setup rather than launcher) myself SOU P+K P P (bounce) (may need a friend, or program it somehow or just *assume* it's the same exactly as 6 P+K P bounce, dunno). Wolf next, I have a feeling there are not a lot of different combos than Jeff so I just note the differences.

Neonomide · Jan 27, 2013

Wolf!

Identical combos? Bah, humbug, how wrong I could be! Lots of new combos, many new ones for Jeffry too (thoroughly updated!). Wolf has a different hitbox than Jeff and dmg is similar, but not the same. Some launchers hit Jeff not Wolf but some give Wolf full combos, Jeff not.

- 236 P (6+ DP)

(Closed) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
(Open) PP, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
P, 1P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 3KP = 50 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 46 dmg

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

236 KP, 3PP (P+K+G) = 71 dmg
P, 236 KPP = 71 dmg
P, PP4PP = 69 dmg
(Closed) 236 KP, 46 P P+K = 68 dmg
P, 236 KPP = 63 dmg

- 2_3 P (CH)

2P, 6_P, 1P K = 69 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 65 dmg
2P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 56 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 6K, PP = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, P, 46 PPP P+K = 72 dmg

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Open) P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46 PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg

- 8 K+G

P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) dash, 6_KPP = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg
(8 DP) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

- 66 K

(Closed) KKP = 56 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 54 dmg
P, 3 KP 53 dmg
(Closed) 46 P+K, P = 52 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP, short delay on Closed) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP)

6_PP4PP = 59 dmg
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
46PPP = 46 dmg

(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

- 46P (P P) P+K (CH) (2+ DP)

(Closed) 6_PP4P = 59 dmg
(Closed) 6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
(Closed) 6_PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
(Open) 6PP = 48 dmg

(Closed, 4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 61 dmg
(Closed, 6 DP) PP2KK = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

- 6K (CH)

KP = 57 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

(Closed, 4 DP) PP, 1P = 66 dmg
(Closed, 4 DP) PP, 3P = 64 dmg
(Closed, 4 DP) PP, 2P = 58 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 75 dmg
(8 DP, max range) PP, 43P+K P = 85 dmg

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1 P K = 62 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 1 KK = 53 dmg
2P, 43 P+K = 51 dmg
2P, 66 K = 51 dmg
2P, 33P = 49 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

- 4 P+K+G P

(8 DP) 66 P+K (P+K+G) = 41 dmg

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, P, 46 PPP = 64 dmg
6 K+G, PPP = 61 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
KKP = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 74 dmg
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(Open) P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PPP = 63 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP)236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
PK (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

- 3K P (CH)

P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (4K to SOU) = 47 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, 236 KPP = 59 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg

- P 4K (CH)

(Closed) PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg
(Closed) PPP = 54 dmg
K+G = 47 dmg

(Closed) PP4PP = 66 dmg

- 6 P+K P

6_PPP = 61 dmg
6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

- 4K P

2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, dash, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg

- 3 P+K (full charge)

1 P = 51 dmg
3 P = 49 dmg

(CH, Open) P, 2P, 6 PP = 92 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 87 dmg (+1 DP)
(CH) P, 6PP = 87 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4P = 98 dmg
(CH, Open, 6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, Open, 8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 111 dmg

- 6 P+K+G K

(1 DP) 1 P K = 51 dmg
(Closed, 1 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
(Open, 1 DP) 46 PPP = 45 dmg

(Closed, 4 DP) 6_PP4P = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 55 dmg

- PPPK (CH)

1P K = 61 dmg
46 PPP = 55 dmg

(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

(4 DP) PP = 57 dmg

- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
236P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 45 dmg

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_PP4PP = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 54 dmg

- 6 P+G (follow-ups depend on reaction)

1P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
1P+K, 6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6PP = 34 dmg

(6 DP) 236P, 46PPP P+K = 52 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 3PP = 71 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46P P+K = 68 dmg

- P+G (Oushin)

46P+K P = 45 dmg
1P+K combos (adds 5 dmg)

(4 DP) 46P+K PP = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 236 P combos (adds 5 dmg)
(8 DP) 236 P P combos (adds 5 dmg)

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg
6_P, PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
1P K = 47 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1 P K = 50 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (5 DP)

(6 DP) = 2P, 46 PPP P+K (54 dmg)

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

1P = 37 dmg

(CH) PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(CH) PPP (4K to SOU) = 60 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) PP4PP = 72 dmg
(CH, Closed, 6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg

- K+G (Tentouritsu) (35 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3KP = 57 dmg
1P K = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu) (20 dmg)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg

-K (Soukokukyu, BT) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in, CH)

at +15. 1P+K combos.

Kinda done I guess. Some freaky places I tried to connect 43P+K P but failed. Theoretically possible though. Akira next!

Neonomide · Feb 10, 2013

Akira! (The Akira Must Die Edition!)

I'll try to comment shortly the combos with a reference to combo number to keep up some notes on any weird stuff. Gonna add this feature to former characters soon, too. Also, a new "launcher" added with GK stance P+K (CH) which is +15 so it allows for 1P+K combos.

- 236 P (6+ DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 74 dmg
236 KP, PPKK = 70 dmg
236 KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
236 KP, 1PK = 69 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
PP(G), 236 KPP = 66 dmg
236 KP, 3KP = 65 dmg
236 KP, 6PP = 65 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg

(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 87 dmg
(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6KPP = 80 dmg

(CH, 8 DP) P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 89 dmg
(CH, 8 DP) 236KP, PP4PP = 86 dmg
(CH, 8 DP) P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 85 dmg

The hard part here is to hit-check the Chouwan CH hit for Scorpion kick (6K+G) for max damage on combo 12. The same combo also needs a fast dash in in order to connect the 236 KPP string. With 236KP, as with strings generally, press G to empty a buffer and to do the rest of the combo more consistently if unsure on timing. On the other hand, the PP part in combo 6 actually requires G so I put it in the combo note. Also, some part may need 6_P to connect but it's hard to distinguish all parts since the launcher connecting in different ranges too. As it is, it may be better to always press 6_ just to be sure, also during P strings like the staple PP4PP. Pressing 6_ almost never makes the combo not work! Trying a combo pressing 6_ during P parts and using G to separate moves are classic stuff in VF but they should probably noted sooner than later.

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 86 dmg
P, 6K+G, 43P+K = 83 dmg
P, 6K+G, 66, 6PP = 78 dmg
(Closed) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 75 dmg
236 KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg

(CH, 8 DP) P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 93 dmg
(CH, 8 DP) P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 96 dmg

(9 DP, CH) 236KP, 43P+K P = 91 dmg

You can do a KG stance with P+K+G after 6P in combo 3 for a drink if you really need it, but usually at 8 DP it's best just to take the damage. The last combo is funny, as it doesn't connect at 8 DP.

- 2_3 P (CH)

2P, 6_P, 1P K = 69 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 65 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43 P+K = 65 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
2P, 6_P, 46 PPP = 62 dmg
2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 56 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 6K PP = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 72 dmg

Note that 2P to 6_P part in aforementioned combos should be done by releasing the joystick after 2P so 236P doesn't come out instead (at 6+ DP). The P part after 2P must always be done with 6_ here, regardless of range.

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46 PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(6 DP) P, PPKK = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 62 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg

- 8 K+G

6KKP = 62 dmg
6_P, 6_KKP = 59 dmg
P, 1P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43P+K P = 57 dmg
(8 DP) P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

Strict timing on combo 1, do 6K just after Akira hits the ground. I find more strict timing on combo 2 on Closed than in Open, wait until Akira's feet are more upwards. Generally waiting Akira to come to ground make and hitting Akira's feet makes combos work.

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
66, 1KK = 43 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

(8 DP) 43P+K P = 55 dmg

- 66 K

(Closed) KKP = 56 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 54 dmg
P, 3 KP 53 dmg
(Closed) 46 P+K, P = 52 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) 46P+K PP = 63 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 71 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236KP, 1P = 67 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 71 dmg (+1 DP)

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP)

1P K = 52 dmg
(Open) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(Open) 46PPP = 46 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

- 46P (P P) P+K (CH) (2/4/6+ DP)

1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) 46PPP = 46 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

- 6K (CH)

KP = 57 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

(4 DP) PP, 1P = 66 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 3P = 64 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 2K = 60 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 75 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 43P+K P = 85 dmg

- 6K (CHOU, CH)

KP = 46 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 36 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) PP, 1P = 66 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 3P = 67 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 2K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 78 dmg

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 1 KK = 53 dmg
2P, 43 P+K = 51 dmg
2P, 66 K = 51 dmg
2P, 33P = 49 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

- 4 P+K+G P (CH)

(8 DP) 66 P+K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

It seems to miss by 1-2 frames on NH and exe may be less if Akira's back near walls.

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, P, 46 PPP = 64 dmg
6 K+G, PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP (K4) = 61 dmg
KKP = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 78 dmg
236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 74 dmg
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(Open) P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PPP = 63 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 85 dmg
(11 DP)236 KP, 46PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)

(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

If second K launches on CH, it allows for Scorpion kick. Gonna add it as a 42th launcher actually and eventually, and it has some unique combos too. Stay tuned for that.

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

P, 236KP, 43 P+K P = 92 dmg
P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 75 dmg
P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 71 dmg
P K (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

- 3K P (CH)

P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (4K to SOU) = 47 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, 236 KPP = 59 dmg
(8 DP, Open) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43P+K P = 54 dmg

- P 4K (CH)

K+G = 47 dmg

- 6 P+K P

6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg
6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

- 4K P

2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 1P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP (K4) = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, dash, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, dash, 6_P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg

- 3 P+K (full charge)

1 P = 51 dmg
3 P = 49 dmg

(CH) P, 2P, 6 PP = 92 dmg
(CH) P, 1P K = 91 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 87 dmg (+1 DP)
(CH) P, 6PP = 87 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4P = 98 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, 8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 111 dmg
(CH, 10 DP, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 115 dmg

Push 6 before 236K in combo 8, it's not a typo.

- 6 P+K+G K

(1 DP, Closed) 6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
(1 DP) 1P K = 51 dmg
(Closed, 1 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
(1 DP) 46 PPP = 45 dmg

(Closed, 4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 55 dmg

- PPPK (CH)

1P K = 61 dmg
6PP = 57 dmg
46 PPP = 55 dmg

(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

(4 DP) PP = 57 dmg

- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 60 dmg
236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
236P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

- 6 P+G

1P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
1P+K, 6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6PP = 34 dmg

(6 DP) 236P, 46PPP P+K = 52 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 236KPP = 71 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46P P+K = 68 dmg

Crouch and turn nullifies 1P+K combos, but just blocking makes it work for Shun.

- P+G (Oushin)

46P+K P = 45 dmg
1P+K combos (launching throw adds 5 dmg)

(4 DP) 46P+K PP = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 236 P combos (adds 5 dmg)
(8 DP) 236 P P combos (adds 5 dmg)

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg
6_P, PPP (K4) = 49 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1 P K = 50 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (5 DP)

(6 DP) = 2P, 46 PPP P+K (54 dmg)

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

46PPP = 45 dmg
1P = 37 dmg

(CH) PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(CH) PPP (4K to SOU) = 60 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236KPP = 78 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg

- K+G (Tentouritsu) (35 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3KP = 57 dmg
1P K = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu) (20 dmg)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg

-K (Soukokukyu, BT) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in, CH)

1P+K combos.

Akira done! Jacky next.

Neonomide · Oct 9, 2013

Lau !

It's time for middle weights! No real plan here, just using Jacky combos as a reference but I try to scan all new combo opportunities with scrutiny. Fear not commenting, criticizing or asking at any point! All testing of combos I note as uncertain is most appreciated too!

- 236 P (6+ DP)

(Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 77 dmg
236KP, PP4PP = 74 dmg
236KP, PPKK = 70 dmg
236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(Open) 236KP, 236KPP = 69 dmg
236KP, 1PK = 69 dmg
(Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 67 dmg (+1 DP)
236KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
PP(G), 236 KPP = 66 dmg
236KP, 3KP = 65 dmg
236KP, 6PP = 65 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg

(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 87 dmg
(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6KPP = 80 dmg

(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 89 dmg
(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+KP = 85 dmg
(8 DP) 236KP, 6_P, 43P+KP = 77 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) 236KP,3PPK (P+K+G) = 74 dmg

The hard part here is to hit-check the 236P (CH) hit for Scorpion kick (6K+G) for max damage in mentioned combos. Also, for 6K+G to hit, 236P should connect close to opponent in Closed stance. The same combo also needs a fast dash in in order to connect the 236 KPP ender. With 236KP, as with 6_P and other strings generally, press G to empty a buffer and to do the rest of the combo more consistently if failing on timing. Also, the PP part in combo 9 definitely requires G so I put it in the combo note. Also, some parts may need 6_P to connect instead of just 5P but it's hard to distinguish all parts since the launcher may be connecting in different ranges. As it is, it may be better to always press 6_ just to be sure, also during P strings like the staple PP4PP at 4+ DP. Pressing 6_ almost never makes the combo not work! Trying a combo pressing 6_ during P parts and using G to separate moves are classic stuff in VF but they should probably noted sooner than later. As this is perhaps the most important launcher Shun has, I listed lots of combos for variation and different input skills.

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A referential Checkpoint! Only above combos are checked and should work, the ones below are just for reference of possibilities!
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- 236 P P (8+ DP)

P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 86 dmg
P, 6K+G, 43P+K = 83 dmg
P, 6K+G, 66, 6PP = 78 dmg
(Closed) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 75 dmg
236 KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg

(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+KP = 93 dmg
(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 96 dmg

You can do a P+K+G after 6P in combo 3 for a drink and 67 dmg if you really need it, but usually at 8 DP it's best just to take the damage.

- 2_3 P (CH)

6KKP = 72 dmg
2P, 6_P, 1P K = 69 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 65 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43 P+K = 65 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
2P, 6_P, 46 PPP = 62 dmg
2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 56 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6K PP = 68 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 74 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 72 dmg

Note that 2P to 6_P part in aforementioned combos should be done by releasing the joystick after 2P so 236P doesn't come out instead (at 6+ DP). The P part after 2P must always be done with 6_ here, regardless of range. I did some overkill here, as 6KKP is such a no-brainer really, as the rest adds only to Oki. At 4 DP best combo does add to pushback.

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46 PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(6 DP) P, PPKK = 56 dmg
(6 DP) 236KPP = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 62 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg

- 8 K+G

6KKP = 62 dmg
P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) dash, 6_KKP = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(4 DP) 6KPP = 58 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+KP = 57 dmg
(8 DP) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

Note the difference between 6_KKP and 6KKP, as they are different moves. Do 6KKP right after Jacky hits the ground.

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
66, 1KK = 43 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 66 K

(Open) PP4P, 46PPP = 67 dmg
(Closed) PP4P, 46PPP = 62 dmg
(Closed) KKP = 56 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 54 dmg
P, 3 KP 53 dmg
(Closed) 46 P+K, P = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6KPP = 69 dmg
(4 DP, Open) PP4P, 46PP P+K = 68 dmg
(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP4P, 46P P+K = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP) PP, 236KPP = 71 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) PP4P, 43P+K P = 78 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

In combo 2, the second last P in combo misses.

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP)

On low attacks:

6_P, 6_PP4PP = 63 dmg
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 46PP P+K = 55 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
46PPP = 46 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 63 dmg

On standing attacks:

1P K = 52 dmg

(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

Just figured out that CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P). I think it's more specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too)

- 46P (P P) P+K (CH) (2+ DP)

On low attacks:

(Closed) 6_PP4P = 59 dmg
(Closed) 6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
(Closed) 6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
(Open) 6PP = 48 dmg

(Closed, 4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 61 dmg
(Closed, 6 DP) PP2KK = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

On standing attacks:

(Closed) 1P K = 53 dmg
(Open) 1P K = 52 dmg
(Open) 6PP = 48 dmg
(Closed) 46PPP = 46 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

Just figured out that CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P) and allows for P combos. I think it's more specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too) And yeah, I got 52/53 dmg on the same combo on Closed versus Open, figure that.

- 6K (CH)

KP = 57 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) PP, 6_PP4PP = 85 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(4 DP) PP, 46PP P+K = 75 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 43P+K = 69 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 1P = 66 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 3P = 64 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 2P = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 85 dmg
(6 DP) PP, 46PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(7 DP) PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 79 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 75 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) PP, 6_P, 43P+K P = 90 dmg

It seems P combos activate after PP (CHOU) part at 7 drinks, in case you were wondering. Similar stuff may happen with other characters too so watch out. Also, can anyone hit the last 90 dmg combo on Open? I got close but no sugar.

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 1KK = 53 dmg
2P, 43P+K = 51 dmg
2P, 66K = 51 dmg
2P, 33P = 49 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

You can add down attack (3P) if opponent doesn't tech the 66K combo for 63 dmg.

- 4 P+K+G P

(8 DP, CH) 66P+K (P+K+G) = 41 dmg

I don't think NH suffices, as it's +20-21f and 66P+K is 21f. On CH, its +24.

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, 6_P, 6PP = 67 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg
(to Right) 6 K+G, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 6_PPP = 65 dmg
6 K+G, P, 46 PPP = 64 dmg
6 K+G, PPP = 61 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
KKP = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PP P+K = 66 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4PP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

Added "to right/left" category to express the Shun's movement as stance seems to mean nothing here. At combo 12, some hits of PP4PP may miss depending on timing and maybe range.

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 78 dmg
236 KP, PPKK = 74 dmg
236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 74 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 70 dmg (+1 DP)
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(Open) P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)

(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 3KP = 84 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 83 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg
(11 DP, CH) P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 95 dmg
(11 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 91 dmg
(11 DP, Closed, CH) 236KP, 3PPK (P+K+G) ) 90 dmg

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
PP, 6PP = 68 dmg
6_P, 6_P, 6PP = 66 dmg
PP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 65 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_P, 3KP = 65 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PP P+K = 65 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 85 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PPKK = 81 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP)236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

6_P, 236KP, 43P+K P = 92 dmg
P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
6_P, 236KPP= 76 dmg
6_P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 75 dmg
6_P, 2P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg
PK4, K+G = 71 dmg
P, 1P K = 68 dmg
(G)6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
3_PK (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

Be aware of the G cancelling after the 3P here.

- 3K P (CH)

P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (4K to SOU) = 47 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, 236 KPP = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 6_PPKK = 54 dmg
(8 DP, Open) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg

Not sure on 236 KPP, 43P+K P combo, looks close but I always got green so I left out but check if you can do it!

- P 4K (CH)

(Closed) PP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
(Closed) PP4PP = 66 dmg
(Closed) PP, 43P+K = 60 dmg
(Closed) PP, 1P = 57 dmg
(Closed) PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg
(Closed) PPP = 54 dmg
K+G = 47 dmg

(2 DP, Closed) PP, 46P P+K = 60 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 46PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 76 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 46PPP P+K = 74 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) PP, 43P+K P = 74 dmg

Yes, it seems Open stance is doomed for an eternal K+G here... ;-)

- P K (CH) (a new launcher!)

(Open) 1P = 43 dmg
(Closed)2K = 37 dmg
(Closed) 2P = 35 dmg

(7 DP, Closed) 1P = 45 dmg
(7 DP) 3P = 42 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

Basically a safer version of P K4 with (far) less cajones.

9K+G (a new launcher!)

KPK = 61 dmg
(Closed) P K = 57 dmg

You need to be close for combos here.

- 6 P+K P

P, 6PP = 67 dmg
(Closed) P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
6KP = 64 dmg
PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6_PPP = 61 dmg
6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

For once, don't push 6_ during the first filler unch at combo 1.

- 4K P

2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 6_P, PPP(K4) = 55 dmg
2P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, 66, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 66, 236 KPP = 72 dmg

Walk just slightly forward after 6K+G in order to hit the first filler unch with the rest of the combo.

- 3 P+K (full charge)

(Closed) 1P K = 65 dmg
6PP = 61 dmg
3KP = 60 dmg

(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 46PPP P+K = 71 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 69 dmg

(CH) P, 2P, 6 PP = 92 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_P, 3KP = 91 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 87 dmg (+1 DP)
(CH) P, 6PP = 87 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4P = 98 dmg
(CH, Open, 6 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 112 dmg
(CH, Open, 6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, Open, 8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 111 dmg

- 6 P+K+G K (adds 1 DP before hit)

(1 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)
(1 DP) 1P K = 51 dmg
(Open, 1 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4P = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 59 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 60 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 57 dmg

- PPPK (CH)

6_P, 1P K = 68 dmg
6_P, 6PP
6_P, 46 PPP = 62 dmg
(Open) 1P K = 61 dmg
PP4P (P+K+G) = 59 dmg
(Open) 46PPP = 55 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 74 dmg
(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 57 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

I find the easy to test these combos is to put opponent to"Guard and counterattack 1" aka guard, standing unch and delay the second P so that it does a CH, then delay the K (hit) part a bit too.

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

(4 DP) PP = 57 dmg

- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
236P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 45 dmg

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_PP4PP = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

- 6 P+G (follow-ups depend on reaction)

1P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
1P+K, 6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6PP = 34 dmg

(6 DP) 236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 236KPP = 71 dmg

As with Akira, Shun seems to get stronger combos out of 6P+G here but less pushback.

- P+G (Oushin, adds 5 dmg to launcher dmg)

46P+K P = 45 dmg
1P+K combos

(4 DP) 46P+K PP = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 236 P combos
(8 DP) 236 P P combos

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, 1P K= 54 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+ 1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6_P, PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
1P K = 47 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1P K = 50 dmg
2P, 46PPP = 44 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (+5 DP)

(6 DP) 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43P+K P = 53 dmg

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_PPP(K4) = 53 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) 65 dmg

Buffering is more difficult in these combos for some reason. Easier to mash P here and forget the single P sometimes...

- K+G (Tentouritsu) (25 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3KP = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_PP4PP = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

For combo 6 to work, you need to delay 2P a bit. (a hard one!)

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu) (20 dmg)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 63 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236KPP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 62 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 67 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, 6_PP, 43P+K P = 58 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 1P K = 55 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236KPP = 69 dmg

-K (Soukokukyu, BT) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in, CH)

1P+K combos.

Lau done! (please post your new combos, corrections and other notes of course!)

Chill · Feb 15, 2013

Neo I'll start writing up some El Blaze / Eileen stuff. Really appreciate the effort you're putting into this sub-forum, I realise it takes a lot of time to do this sort of thing so I'll jump in where ever I can.

We're starting to get a great bank of knowledge here though!

Chill · Feb 16, 2013

Alright, here's a start for our everyone's favourite featherweight mexican El Blaze. Haven't done all launchers but I think the main ones are covered.

Update - Fixed a few mistakes and have added some more Chouwan combos. Interestingly the , combo string won't work after , only .

Chouwan into , , is still the most consistent combo overall though, think it's going to be hard to improve on.

Update 2 - Added (CH) and combos. Also found a 100+ chouwan combo! Good luck pulling it off in a match though!

El Blaze

- (6 DP)

, , short dash, = 77 dmg

(Won't hit at maximum range) , , = 82 dmg

(Closed, won't hit at maximum range) , , short dash, = 85 dmg

(8 DP, won't hit at maximum range) , , , = 88 dmg

(8 DP, CH only, won't hit at maximum range) , , , , = 101 dmg (!)

- , (8 DP)

, , short dash, = 86 dmg

-

, = 72 dmg

, , = 69 dmg

(4 DP) , , = 72 dmg

(6 DP) , ,, = 81 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 85 dmg

-

, , = 69 dmg

(6 DP) , = 74 dmg

-

forward dash or OM to opponent's back, , , = 69 dmg

(6DP) , = 74 dmg

-

short dash, = 43 dmg

(8 DP) = 54 dmg

-

, = 65 dmg

(Closed) , , = 73 dmg

(6 DP) , = 71 dmg

(6 DP, only works when close to opponent) , = 79 dmg

- , (CH)

, = 62 dmg

(6 DP, Open) , = 66 dmg

(6 DP, Closed) , = 71 dmg

(8 DP) , , = 80 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 76 dmg

, = 67 dmg

(4 DP) , = 85 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 90 dmg

(8 DP, Closed) , (), , = 93 dmg

-

, = 57 dmg

(8 DP, requires quick forward dash to prevent ) = 64 dmg

- /,

, short dash, = 62 dmg

(4 DP) , short dash, = 72 dmg

(6 DP) , short dash, , = 77 dmg

(Move must finish facing El Blaze in closed stance) , , = 79 dmg

-

, , short dash, = 83 dmg

- ,

, = 83 dmg

(11 DP) , , short dash, = 88 dmg

(13 DP) , , , = 99 dmg

(13 DP, Open) , , , , = 102 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 69 dmg

-

, , , = 74 dmg

(8 DP) , , , , = 83 dmg

-

= 34 dmg

(6 DP) , , = 61 dmg

(8 DP) , , , short dash, = 88 dmg

Neonomide · Feb 19, 2013

Jean !

Thanks Chill, those combos seem legit and max dmg too. Gotta test those soon more intimately (buzy!).

Jean has that notoriously higher CH damage in dojo because of his higher dmg (K, which is red rather than yellow counter hit) which the cpu does and I'm very aware of that. I'll change the dmg part later (when all characters are ready!) to launcher/combo dmg system but because of time restrains the simple copying of dojo data should suffice for basic reference (and hey, now one knows how much the real dmg on red CH is at least with one character). (ok it's fun to see crazy CH dmg too ^^)

It seems that 3P launches at red CH at 8+ DP !

-236 P (6+ DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 74 dmg
236 KP, PPKK = 70 dmg
236 KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
236 KP, 1PK = 69 dmg
(Open) 236KP, 236KPP = 69 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
PP(G), 236 KPP = 66 dmg
236 KP, 3KP = 65 dmg
236 KP, 6PP = 65 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg

(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 92 dmg
(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6KPP = 86 dmg

(8 DP, CH, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 89 dmg
(8 DP, CH, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+KP = 90 dmg
(8 DP) 236KP, 43P+KP = 72 dmg

The hard part here is to hit-check the Chouwan CH hit for Scorpion kick (6K+G) for max damage on combos 13-16. The same combo also needs a fast dash in in order to connect the 236 KPP ender. With 236KP, as with 6_P and other strings generally, press G to empty a buffer (so that P string does not come out but the noted move) and to do the rest of the combo more consistently. This obviously is not always needed. On the other hand, the PP part in combo 7 pretty much requires G so I put it in the combo note.

Also, some combos may need 6_P (press forward just before pressing ) to connect but it's hard to note all it's uses since the launcher connecting in different ranges too. I try to note 6_P at least when it makes the combo more consistent. As it is, it may be better to (nearly) always press 6_ just to be sure, also during P strings in many combos like in the staple PP4PP. Pressing 6_ before P (or any other string for that matter) almost never makes the combo _not_ work! Trying a combo pressing 6_ during P strings and using G to separate moves are a classic mechanic in VIrtua Fighter but they should probably noted sooner than later. And since most Shun players use (and should use) this launcher...

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 86 dmg
P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 83 dmg
P, 6K+G, 66, 6PP = 78 dmg
P, 6K+G, 4PP = 77 dmg
(Closed) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 75 dmg
236 KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg

(8 DP, Closed) 236KP, 43P+K P = 80 dmg
(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+KP = 93 dmg
(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 96 dmg

You can do a P+K+G after 6P in combo 3 for a drink and 67 dmg if you really need it, but usually at 8 DP it's best just to take the damage. No dash needed in combo 4, in case you were wondering.

- 2_3 P (CH)

6KKP = 77 dmg
2P, 6_P, 1P K = 74 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 70 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43 P+K = 70 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 69 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6_P, 46 PPP = 67 dmg
2P, 1P K = 67 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 65 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6PP = 63 dmg
2P, 3K P = 62 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 77 dmg
(4 DP) 6K PP = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 79 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 77 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 77 dmg

Note that 2P to 6_P part in aforementioned combos should be done by releasing the joystick after 2P so 236P doesn't come out instead (at 6+ DP). The P part after 2P must always be done with 6_P here, regardless of range. I did some overkill here, as 6KKP is such a no-brainer really, as the rest adds only to Oki and cirrhosis. At 4 DP best combo does add to pushback. Delay the last 236KPP hit in Open stance in combo 14.

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
(Closed) 6_P, 6K P = 54 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46 PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, PPKK = 56 dmg
(6 DP) 236KPP = 54 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 62 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg

- 8 K+G

6KKP = 62 dmg
P, 1P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) dash, 6_KKP = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(4 DP) 6KPP = 58 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+KP = 57 dmg
(8 DP) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

For all combos, dash or walk close and wait a short moment until Jean drops to the ground. Note the difference between 6_KKP and 6KKP, as they are different moves. Do 6KKP right after Jacky hits the ground.

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
(Closed) 66, 1KK = 43 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 66 K

(Closed) 6_P, KK2P = 60 dmg
(Closed) 6_P, 6KP = 58 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6PP = 54 dmg
P, 3KP 53 dmg
(Closed) 46 P+K, P = 52 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 6_P, 6KPP = 69 dmg
(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, PP4PP = 79 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PP P+K = 69 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, P, 43 P+K P = 81 dmg

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP) (no red CH damage, no need to adjust)

On low attacks:

6_P, 6_PP4PP = 63 dmg
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 46PP P+K = 55 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
46PP P+K = 48 dmg
46PPP = 46 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 63 dmg

On standing attacks:

1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) 6PP = 48 dmg
(Open) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

Note that CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P). I think it's more specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too)

- 46P (P P) P+K (CH) (2+ DP) (no red CH damage, no need to adjust)

On low attacks:

6_P, 1P K = 59 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg (+1 DP)
6_PP4P, 2P = 55 dmg
6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 3KP = 54 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
6PP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 6_PP2KK = 61 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 63 dmg

On standing attacks:

1P K = 52 dmg
(Open) 6PP = 48 dmg
(Closed) 46PPP = 46 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

Just figured out that CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P) and allows for P combos. I think it's more specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too) And yeah, I got 52/53 dmg on the same combo on Closed versus Open, funny but real.

- 6K (CH)

KP = 62 dmg
K~P = 61 dmg
P, 1P = 60 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) PP, 6_PP4PP = 90 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 82 dmg (+1 DP)
(4 DP) PP, 6PP = 81 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 46PP P+K = 80 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 43P+K = 74 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 3K = 72 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 1P = 71 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 3P = 69 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 2P = 63 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 90 dmg
(6 DP, Open) PP, 46PPP P+K = 86 dmg
(7 DP) PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 84 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 80 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 43P+K P = 90 dmg

It seems P combos in Open stance activate after PP (CHOU) part at 7 drinks, in case you were wondering. Hard to time though. Similar stuff may happen with other characters and in other combos so watch out (and post them all to this thread, please!).

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1P K = 67 dmg
2P, 3K P = 62 dmg
2P, 1KK = 58 dmg
2P, 43P+K = 56 dmg
2P, 66K = 56 dmg
2P, 33P = 54 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43P+K P = 70 dmg

You can add down attack (3P) if opponent doesn't tech the 66K combo for 63 dmg.

- 4 P+K+G P

(8 DP, CH) 66P+K (P+K+G) = 52 dmg

I don't think NH suffices, as it's +20-21f and 66P+K is 21f. On CH, its +24-25f.

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, 6_P, 6PP = 82 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 3K P = 81 dmg
(to Right) 6 K+G, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 81 dmg (+1 DP)
6 K+G, 6_P, 6_PPP = 80 dmg
6 K+G, P, 46 PPP = 79 dmg
6 K+G, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 76 dmg
PPPK = 75 dmg
KKP = 67 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 87 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PP P+K = 81 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4PP = 89 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 88 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 85 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 81 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 92 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 87 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 87 dmg

Added "to right/left" category to express the Shun's movement as stance seems to mean nothing here.

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 78 dmg
236 KP, PPKK = 74 dmg
236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 74 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 70 dmg (+1 DP)
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)

(CH) P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 100 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 3KP = 90 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 89 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 94 dmg
(11 DP, Open) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 99 dmg
(11 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 97 dmg
(11 DP, Closed, CH) 236KP, 3PPK (P+K+G) ) 90 dmg

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
PP, 6PP = 68 dmg
6_P, 6_P, 6PP = 66 dmg
PP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 65 dmg (+1 DP)
PP, 3KP = 67 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PP P+K = 65 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 85 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PPKK = 81 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP)236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP and red CH at 8 DP, both dmg noted here)

at 8 DP

(Closed) P, 236KPP = 73 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(Open) PP, 6PP = 69 dmg
6_P, 46PPP P+K = 69 dmg
6_P, PPK (P+K+G) = 69 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
PP, 3KP = 68 dmg

at 23 DP

6_P, 236KP, 43P+K P = 97 dmg
(Open) 6_P, 6KPP = 87 dmg
P, PP4PP = 81 dmg
6_P, 236KPP= 81 dmg
6_P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 80 dmg
6_P, 2P, 43P+K P = 80 dmg
PK4, K+G = 76 dmg
P, 1P K = 68 dmg
(G)6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 76 dmg
3_PK (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

Be aware of the G cancelling after the 3P here. I also did 8 DP combos here, because of the opportunity. At the last combo, delay the ick on Closed.

- 3K P (CH)

P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (4K to SOU) = 47 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, 236 KPP = 59 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 6_PPKK = 54 dmg
(8 DP, Open) P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg

Not sure on 236 KP, 43P+K P combo, looks close but I always got green so I left out but check if you can do it!

- P 4K (CH)

(Closed) PP, 43P+K = 60 dmg
(Closed) PP, 1P = 57 dmg
(Closed) PP, PP = 56 dmg
(Closed) PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg (+1 DP)
(Closed) PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
K+G = 47 dmg

(2 DP, Closed) PP, 46P P+K = 60 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP4PP = 66 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 46PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 76 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 46PPP P+K = 72 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) PP, 43P+K P = 74 dmg

Yes, it seems Open stance is doomed for an eternal K+G here... ;-)

- P K (CH) (a new launcher!)

(Open) 1P = 43 dmg
2K = 37 dmg
(Closed) 2P = 35 dmg

(7 DP) 3P = 42 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

Basically a safer version of P K4 with (far) less cajones.

9K+G (a new launcher!)

KPK = 61 dmg
(Closed) P K = 57 dmg

You need to be close for combos here.

- 6 P+K P

P, 6PP = 67 dmg
(Closed) P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 65 dmg
6KP = 64 dmg
PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

- 4K P

6KKP = 64 dmg
2P, 6_P, 1P K = 61 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 6_P, PPP(K4) = 55 dmg
2P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, 66, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 66, 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6K+G, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

Walk just slightly forward after 6K+G in order to hit the first filler unch with the rest of the combo.

- 3 P+K (full charge)

(Open) 6_P, 1P K = 72 dmg
(Open) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 68 dmg (+1 DP)
(Closed) 1P K = 65 dmg
(Open) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 63 dmg (+1 DP)
(Closed) 6PP = 61 dmg
3KP = 60 dmg

(4 DP, Open) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 79 dmg
(4 DP, Open) 6_PP4PP = 75 dmg
(4 DP, Open) 6_P, 46PP P+K = 69 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236 KPP = 80 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 77 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 80 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 6_P, 43P+K P = 76 dmg

(CH) PP, 3KP = 102 dmg
(CH) P, 2P, 6PP = 101 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 96 dmg (+1 DP)
(CH) P, 6PP = 96 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 125 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, PP4P (P+K+G) = 115 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 236 KP, PP4PP = 112 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, 8 DP, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 124 dmg
(CH, 8 DP, Open) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 111 dmg

For 3KP to hit on NH, keep pressing 3_ after the launcher hit. Hard timing at 6+ DP for Closed (NH) P series combos so these need to be confirmed for Closed.

- 6 P+K+G K (adds 1 DP before hit)

(1 DP, Open) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)
(1 DP) 6_P, 3KP = 53 dmg
(1 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
(1 DP) 1P K = 51 dmg
(1 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 47 dmg
(1 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 59 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 60 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 57 dmg

- PPPK (CH) (no red CH damage, no need to adjust)

1P K = 61 dmg
6PP = 57 dmg
46PPP = 55 dmg

(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 57 dmg
(6 DP) 46PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

I find the easy to test these combos is to put opponent to"Guard and counterattack 1" aka guard, standing unch and delay the second P so that it does a CH, then delay the K (hit) part a bit too.

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
2P, 46PPP = 46 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

(4 DP) PP = 57 dmg

- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 60 dmg
236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
236P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 45 dmg

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_PP4PP = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

- 6 P+G (follow-ups depend on reaction)

1P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
1P+K, 6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6PP = 34 dmg

(6 DP) 236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 236KPP = 71 dmg

As with Akira, Shun seems to get stronger combos out of 6P+G here but less pushback.

- P+G (Oushin, adds 5 dmg to launcher dmg)

46P+K P = 45 dmg
1P+K combos

(4 DP) 46P+K PP = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 236 P combos
(8 DP) 236 P P combos

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, 1P K= 54 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+ 1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6_P, PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
1P K = 47 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1P K = 50 dmg
2P, 46PPP = 44 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (+5 DP)

(6 DP) 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43P+K P = 53 dmg

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_PPP(K4) = 53 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) 65 dmg

Buffering the first P may be more difficult in these combos for some reason. Easier to mash P here and forget the single P sometimes...

- K+G (Tentouritsu) (25 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3KP = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

(4 DP, Closed) 2P, 6_PP4PP = 75 dmg
(4 DP) 2P, 46PP P+K = 63 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K 85 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 236KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 81 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 2P, 46PPP P+K = 71 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 236KP, 3PP = 77 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 70 dmg

Combo 8 may be possible in Closed (never quite got it tho).

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu) (20 dmg)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 63 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236KPP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 62 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, 6_PP, 43P+K P = 58 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 1P K = 55 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236KPP = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 65 dmg

Remember to release joystick after 2P in order to make Shun stand for 6_P in these combos. You may need to delay the last hit slightly in combo 5 so it does not whiff.

-K (Soukokukyu, BT) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in, CH)

1P+K combos.

Jean done ! Next Lau !

Neonomide · Feb 25, 2013

Lau !

It's time for middle weights (Lau, Kage, Lei, Brad and Goh)! No real plan here, just using Jacky combos as a reference but I try to scan all new combo opportunities with scrutiny. Fear not commenting, criticizing or asking at any point! All testing of combos I note as uncertain is most appreciated too!

- 236 P (6+ DP)

(Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 77 dmg
236KP, PP4PP = 74 dmg
236KP, PPKK = 70 dmg
236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(Open) 236KP, 236KPP = 69 dmg
236KP, 1PK = 69 dmg
(Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 67 dmg (+1 DP)
236KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
PP(G), 236 KPP = 66 dmg
236KP, 3KP = 65 dmg
236KP, 6PP = 65 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg

(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 87 dmg
(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6KPP = 80 dmg

(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 89 dmg
(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+KP = 85 dmg
(8 DP) 236KP, 6_P, 43P+KP = 77 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) 236KP,3PPK (P+K+G) = 74 dmg

The hard part here is to hit-check the 236P (CH) hit for Scorpion kick (6K+G) for max damage in mentioned combos. Also, for 6K+G to hit, 236P should connect close to opponent in Closed stance. The same combo also needs a fast dash in in order to connect the 236 KPP ender. With 236KP, as with 6_P and other strings generally, press G to empty a buffer and to do the rest of the combo more consistently if failing on timing. Also, the PP part in combo 9 definitely requires G so I put it in the combo note. Also, some parts may need 6_P to connect instead of just 5P but it's hard to distinguish all parts since the launcher may be connecting in different ranges. As it is, it may be better to always press 6_ just to be sure, also during P strings like the staple PP4PP at 4+ DP. Pressing 6_ almost never makes the combo not work! Trying a combo pressing 6_ during P parts and using G to separate moves are classic stuff in VF but they should probably noted sooner than later. As this is perhaps the most important launcher Shun has, I listed lots of combos for variation and different input skills.

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 86 dmg
P, 6K+G, 43P+K = 83 dmg
(Closed) 236KP, 43P+K P = 80 dmg
P, 6K+G, 66, 6PP = 78 dmg
(Closed) P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 76 dmg (+1 DP)
(Closed) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 75 dmg (+1 DP)
236 KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg

You can do a P+K+G after 6P in combo 3 for a drink and 67 dmg if you really need(?) it, but usually at 8 DP it's best just to take the damage. Combo 4 has tough timing (added just for fun).

- 2_3 P (CH)

6KKP = 72 dmg
2P, 6_P, 1P K = 69 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 65 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43 P+K = 65 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 64 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6_P, 46 PPP = 62 dmg
2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 56 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6K PP = 68 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 83 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 2P, 236KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 80 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PPKK = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 236KP, 3PP = 76 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 72 dmg

Note that 2P to 6_P part in aforementioned combos should be done by releasing the joystick after 2P so that 33P or 236P (at 6+ DP) doesn't come out instead. The P part after 2P must always be done with 6_ here, regardless of range. I did some overkill here, as 6KKP is such a no-brainer really, as the rest adds only to Oki. At 4 DP best combo does add to pushback. Delay the 236KPP a bit for the last P to hit in combo 14.

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6KPP = 65 dmg
(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(4 DP) 2P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46 PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(6 DP) P, PPKK = 56 dmg
(6 DP) 236KPP = 54 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 62 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 57 dmg

- 8 K+G

6KKP = 62 dmg
P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) 66, 6_KKP = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(4 DP) 6KPP = 58 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+KP = 57 dmg
(8 DP) P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

Note the difference between 6_KKP and 6KKP, as they are different moves. Do 6KKP right after Jacky hits the ground.

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
(Closed) 66, 1KK = 43 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 66 K

(Closed) 46 P+K, KP = 67 dmg
(Closed) KKP = 56 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6PP = 54 dmg
P, 3KP 53 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 81 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP)

On low attacks:

6_P, 6_PP4PP = 63 dmg
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 46PP P+K = 55 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
46PPP = 46 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 63 dmg

On standing attacks:

(Open) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(Open) 46PPP = 46 dmg
1P K = 52 dmg

(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

Just figured out that CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P). I think it's more specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too)

- 46P (or PPP, reverse the stance requirement for PP) P+K (CH) (2+/4+/6+ DP)

On low attacks:

2P, 1P K = 59 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
6PP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, PP2KK = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg

On standing attacks:

1P K = 52 dmg
(Open) 6PP = 48 dmg
(Closed) 46PPP = 46 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg

This one is a really weird launcher. CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P) and allows for P series combos. I'm pretty sure it's specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too)

I also figured out that Shun changes stance (from Closed to Open or vice versa) with 46P P+K but not with 46PP P+K but changes AGAIN with 46PPP P+K. This means the required stances in combos are also reversed accordingly. For the sake of the feeling complete, I guess I must do (simply reverse) the list for 46PP and 46PPP later.

- 6K (CH)

KP = 57 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

(4 DP) PP, 6_PP4PP = 85 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 1P K = 80 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(4 DP) PP, 6_P, 43P+K = 76 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 46PP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 85 dmg
(6 DP) PP, 46PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 43P+K P = 85 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 75 dmg

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 1KK = 53 dmg
2P, 43P+K = 51 dmg
2P, 66K = 51 dmg
2P, 33P = 49 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

You can add down attack (3P) if opponent doesn't tech the 66K combo for 63 dmg.

- 4 P+K+G P

(8 DP, CH) 66P+K (P+K+G) = 41 dmg

I don't think NH suffices, as it's most of the time +20-21f and 66P+K is 21f. On CH, its +24 so yeah.

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, 6_P, 6PP = 67 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg
(to Right) 6 K+G, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 6_PPP = 65 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PPP = 64 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
6KKP = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg
6_PPPK = 60 dmg
KKP = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6KPP = 75 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 4PP = 66 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4PP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 77 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

Added "to right/left" category to express the Shun's movement, as stance (Closed/Open) seems to mean nothing here. In combo 6 delay 6_PPP a bit (to Right).

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 78 dmg
236 KP, PPKK = 74 dmg
236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 74 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 70 dmg (+1 DP)
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(Open) P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)

(CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 94 dmg
(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4PP = 87 dmg
(CH, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 83 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg
(11 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 91 dmg
(11 DP, Closed, CH) 236KP, 3PPK (P+K+G) ) 90 dmg

In combo 9, second P in PP4PP misses.

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, 6KKP = 80 dmg
P, 6KPP = 76 dmg
(Closed) P, KKP = 75 dmg
P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
PP, 6PP = 68 dmg
6_P, 6_P, 6PP = 66 dmg
PP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 65 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_P, 3KP = 65 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PP P+K = 65 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg (+1 DP)

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 85 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PPKK = 81 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(13 DP, Open) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 88 dmg
(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

6_P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 84 dmg
6_P, 236KP, 43P+K = 80 dmg
P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
6_P, 236KPP = 76 dmg
6_PP, 1P K = 75 dmg
6_P, 2P, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg
6_P, 2P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg
6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 71 dmg
PK4, K+G = 71 dmg
P, 1P K = 68 dmg
3_PK (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

Be aware of the G cancelling after the launcher 3P here.

- 3K P (CH)

P, 1P K = 52 dmg
P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 47 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) P, 236 KPP = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 6_PPKK = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 59 dmg
(8 DP, Open) P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg

Not sure on 236 KPP, 43P+K P on 8 DP combo, looks close but I always got green so I left out but check if you can do it!

- P 4K (CH)

(Closed) PP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
(Closed) PP,PPP (K4) = 65 dmg
(Closed) PP, 43P+K = 60 dmg
(Closed) PP, 1P = 57 dmg
(Closed) PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg
(Closed) PPP = 54 dmg
K+G = 47 dmg

(2 DP, Closed) PP, 46P P+K = 60 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 46PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 76 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 46PPP P+K = 72 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) PP, 43P+K P = 74 dmg

Yes, it seems Open stance is doomed for an eternal K+G here... ;-)

- P K (CH)

1P = 43 dmg
3P = 41 dmg
(Closed) 2K = 37 dmg
(Closed) 2P = 35 dmg

(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

Basically a safer version of P K4 with (far) less cajones.

9K+G

(Closed) P K = 57 dmg

You need to be close for combo here.

- 6 P+K P

P, 6PP = 67 dmg
(Closed) P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP = 65 dmg
6KP = 64 dmg
PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6_PPP = 61 dmg
6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
(4 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

- 4K P

2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 6_P, PPP(K4) = 55 dmg
2P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

In combo 7 (Open) delay the last P a bit for a hit.

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, 66, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 66, 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg

Walk just slightly forward after 6K+G in order to hit the first filler unch and the rest of the combo.

- 3 P+K (full charge)

1P K = 65 dmg
(Closed) 6PP = 61 dmg
(Closed) 3KP = 60 dmg
46PPP = 59 dmg

(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 46PPP P+K = 71 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 69 dmg

(CH) 6_P, 2P, 6 PP = 92 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_P, 3KP = 91 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 87 dmg (+1 DP)
(CH) P, 6PP = 87 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 98 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 236 KP, PP4PP = 112 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 106 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, Open, 8 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 116 dmg

Combo 3 hits only when up close.

- 6 P+K+G K (adds 1 DP before hit)

(1 DP) 6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
(1 DP) 1P K = 51 dmg
(1 DP) 6_P, 46PPP = 51 dmg
(1 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
(1 DP) 6_PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 59 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 59 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 60 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 57 dmg

Tighter timing on Open in 6_P starting combos. Combos 7 and 8 needs to be confirmed in Open stance.

- PPPK (CH)

1P K = 61 dmg
6PP = 57 dmg
46PPP = 55 dmg

(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 57 dmg
(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

I find the easy to test these combos is to put opponent to"Guard and counterattack 1" aka guard, standing unch and delay the second P so that it does a CH, then delay the K (hit) part a bit too.

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

(4 DP) PP = 57 dmg

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A referential Checkpoint! Only above combos are checked and should work, the ones below are just for ideas (in many cases more, or sometimes less dmg may be possible)!
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- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
236P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
236P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 45 dmg (+1 DP)

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_PP4PP = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)

- 6 P+G (follow-ups depend on reaction)

1P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
1P+K, 6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6PP = 34 dmg

(6 DP) 236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 78 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 236KPP = 71 dmg

Shun gets stronger combos out of 6P+G here but less pushback. If opponent crouches, 1P+K does not hit in combos 1 and 2. Use 6PP for consistent damage until 6+ DP.

- P+G (Oushin, adds 5 dmg to launcher dmg)

46P+K P = 45 dmg
1P+K combos

(4 DP) 46P+K PP = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 236 P combos
(8 DP) 236 P P combos

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, 1P K= 54 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+ 1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6_P, PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
1P K = 47 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1P K = 50 dmg
2P, 46PPP = 44 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (+5 DP)

(6 DP) 2P, 46PPP P+K = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43P+K P = 53 dmg

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_PPP(K4) = 53 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) 65 dmg

Buffering is more difficult in these combos for some reason. Easier to mash P here and forget the single P sometimes...
Combo 5 in Open need to be confirmed.

- K+G (Tentouritsu) (25 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3KP = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_PP4PP = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46PPP P+K = 80 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 43P+K = 68 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu) (20 dmg)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 63 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236KPP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 62 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, 6_P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 46PPP = 60 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43P+K = 58 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg
(4 DP) 2P, 6_PP, 46PP P+K = 61 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236KPP = 68 dmg

In combo 8, delay the final P a bit for a connect.

-K (Soukokukyu, BT) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in (adds 1 DP), CH)

1P+K combos.

Lau done! (please post your new combos, corrections and other notes of course!)

Chill · Mar 12, 2013

Okay, finally have a working console again so a quick update before I get back into some more detailed combo work.

I've done testing for Eileen using the combos for El Blaze as a base. Turns out they all work fine on Eileen too, so I've copied over these combos to start off the Eileen list. But I figure there won't be much variance (if any) between these characters.

Also I added a couple more , combos. 99 damage from a normal hit low? Yes please!!! Also a good incentive to get up to 13 DP!

Eileen

- (6 DP)

, , short dash, = 77 dmg

(Won't hit at maximum range) , , = 82 dmg

(Closed, won't hit at maximum range) , , short dash, = 85 dmg

(8 DP, won't hit at maximum range) , , , = 88 dmg

(8 DP, CH only, won't hit at maximum range) , , , , = 101 dmg (!)

- , (8 DP)

, , short dash, = 86 dmg

-

, = 72 dmg

, , = 69 dmg

(4 DP) , , = 72 dmg

(6 DP) , ,, = 81 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 85 dmg

-

, , = 69 dmg

(6 DP) , = 74 dmg

-

forward dash or OM to opponent's back, , , = 69 dmg

(6DP) , = 74 dmg

-

short dash, = 43 dmg

(8 DP) = 54 dmg

-

, = 65 dmg

(Closed) , , = 73 dmg

(6 DP) , = 71 dmg

(6 DP, only works when close to opponent) , = 79 dmg

- , (CH)

, = 62 dmg

(6 DP, Closed) , = 71 dmg

(8 DP) , , = 80 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 76 dmg

, = 67 dmg

(4 DP) , = 85 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 90 dmg

(8 DP, Closed) , (), , = 93 dmg

-

, , = 62 dmg

(6 DP) , = 66 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 79 dmg

- /,

, short dash, = 62 dmg

(4 DP) , short dash, = 72 dmg

(6 DP) , short dash, , = 77 dmg

, , = 79 dmg

-

, , short dash, = 83 dmg

- ,

, = 83 dmg

(11 DP) , , short dash, = 88 dmg

(13 DP) , , , = 99 dmg

(13 DP, Open) , , , , = 102 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 69 dmg

-

, , , = 65 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 83 dmg

-

= 34 dmg

(6 DP) , , = 61 dmg

(8 DP) , , , short dash, = 88 dmg

Neonomide · Mar 12, 2013

Kage !

It's time for rest of the middleweights (Kage, Lei, Brad and Goh)! Fear not commenting, criticizing or asking at any point! All testing of combos I note as uncertain is most appreciated too!

- 236 P (6+ DP)

(Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 77 dmg
236KP, 6_PP4PP = 74 dmg
236KP, PPKK = 70 dmg
236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(Open) 236KP, 236KPP = 69 dmg
236KP, 1PK = 69 dmg
(Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 67 dmg (+1 DP)
236KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
PP(G), 236 KPP = 66 dmg
236KP, 3KP = 65 dmg
236KP, 6PP = 65 dmg
PPPK = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg

(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6KPP = 80 dmg

(8 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+KP = 85 dmg
(8 DP) 236KP, 6_P, 43P+KP = 77 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) 236KP, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 74 dmg

The hard part here is to hit-check the 236P (CH) hit for Scorpion kick (6K+G) for max damage in mentioned combos. The same combo also needs a fast dash (66) in in order to connect the 236KPP ender. With 236KP, as with 6_P and other strings generally, press G to empty a buffer and to do the rest of the combo more consistently if failing on timing. Also, the PP part in combo 9 definitely requires G so I put it in the combo note. Also, some parts may need 6_P to connect instead of just 5P but it's hard to distinguish all parts since the launcher may be connecting in different ranges. It may be better to always press 6_ just to be sure, also during P strings like the staple PP4PP at 4+ DP, even when not noted explicitly. Pressing 6_ almost never makes the combo not work! Trying a combo pressing 6_ during P parts and using G to separate moves are classic stuff in VF but they should probably noted sooner than later. As this is (along with the variation below) perhaps the most important launcher Shun has, I listed lots of combos for variety and for differing input skills.

- 236 P P (8+ DP)

P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 86 dmg
P, 6K+G, 43P+K = 83 dmg
(Closed) 236KP, 43P+K P = 80 dmg
P, 6K+G, 66, 6PP = 78 dmg
236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 75 dmg (+1 DP)
236 KP, 46PP P+K = 73 dmg

- 2_3 P (CH)

6KKP = 72 dmg
2P, 6_P, 1P K = 69 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 46 PPP = 67 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 65 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43 P+K = 65 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 64 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 46 PPP = 56 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6K PP = 68 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 6_PPKK = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 72 dmg

Note that 2P to 6_P part in aforementioned combos should be done by releasing the joystick after 2P so that 33P or 236P (at 6+ DP) doesn't come out instead. The P part after 2P must always be done with 6_ here, regardless of range. Delay the 236KPP a bit for the last P to hit in combo 14.

- 1 P+K

P, 1P K = 54 dmg
(Open) P, 2P, 46 PPP = 52 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 49 dmg
P, 46 PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6KPP = 65 dmg
(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(4 DP) 2P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236KPP = 61 dmg
(6 DP) P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(6 DP) P, PPKK = 56 dmg
(6 DP) 236KPP = 54 dmg
(8 DP, Open) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 62 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43P+K P = 57 dmg

Combo 7 must be done close in Open stance to hit.

- 8 K+G

6KKP = 62 dmg
6_P, 1P K = 54 dmg
2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
(Closed) 66, 6_KKP = 52 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6 PP = 50 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 60 dmg
(4 DP) 6KPP = 58 dmg
(6 DP) 66, 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43 P+KP = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 61 dmg

Note the difference between 6_KKP and 6KKP, as they are different moves. Do 6KKP right after Jacky hits the ground. Generally moving closer and waiting until opponent hits the ground works here.

- 6 K+G

8 P = 47 dmg
9 P = 45 dmg
(Closed) 66, 1KK = 43 dmg
43 P+K = 41 dmg

(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 66 K

(Closed) 46 P+K, KP = 67 dmg
PP4P, 1P = 62 dmg
6_PP, 6PP = 61 dmg
6_PP, 3KP = 60 dmg
(Closed) KKP = 56 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
P, 6PP = 54 dmg
P, 3KP 53 dmg

(4 DP) P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP,6_PP4PP = 79 dmg
(6 DP) 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236 KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 81 dmg
(8 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg

- 4 P P (CH) (4+ DP)

On low attacks:

6_P, 6_PP4PP = 63 dmg
6_P, 1P K = 59 dmg
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 46PP P+K = 55 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
46PPP = 46 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 63 dmg

On standing attacks:

(Open) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(Open) 46PPP = 46 dmg
1P K = 52 dmg

(6 DP, Open) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg

CH hit on 2P gives bigger float than for standing P (or 6P). Connect the uppercut after opponent tries to retaliate after the blocked backfist. I think it's more specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too)

- 46P P+K (on CH hit, 2+ DP) 46PP P+K (on CH hit, 4+ DP) 46PPP (on CH hit, 6+ DP) (reverse the stance requirement for PP)

On low attacks:

6_P, 1P K = 59 dmg
6_PP, 46PPP = 59 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 55 dmg
6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 54 dmg
6PP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 65 dmg
(4 DP) 6_P, 46PP P+K = 61 dmg
(6 DP) 6_PP, 46PPP P+K 67 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, PP2KK = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 70 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 67 dmg

On standing attacks:

1P K = 52 dmg
(Open) 6PP = 48 dmg
(Closed) 46PPP = 46 dmg

(4 DP, Closed) 46PP P+K = 48 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 46PPP P+K = 57 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 60 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 56 dmg

A really weird launcher. CH hit on 2P after blocked 46P gives bigger float than standing P (or 6P) and allows for P series combos. I'm pretty sure it's specific to standing/low state in general so I'm gonna reflect that in combo lists from now on. (and later fix the former characters too)

Shun changes stance (from Closed to Open or vice versa) with 46P P+K and 46PPP P+K but not with 46PP P+K. This means the required stances in combos are also reversed accordingly. I note the 46P and 46PPP as default stances here.

- 6K (CH)

KP = 57 dmg
P, 1P = 55 dmg
P, 3P = 53 dmg
P+K, K (P+K+G) = 48 dmg

(4 DP) PP, 6_PP4PP = 85 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 1P K = 80 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 6_P, 46PP P+K = 79 dmg
(4 DP) PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(4 DP) PP, 6_P, 43P+K = 76 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 85 dmg
(6 DP) PP, 46PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 43P+K P = 85 dmg
(8 DP) PP, 3PP = 75 dmg

- 1 K+G (CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 3K P = 57 dmg
2P, 1KK = 53 dmg
2P, 43P+K = 51 dmg
2P, 66K = 51 dmg
2P, 33P = 49 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

You can add down attack (3P) if opponent doesn't tech the 66K combo for 63 dmg.

- 4 P+K+G P

(8 DP, CH) 66P+K (P+K+G) = 41 dmg

I don't think NH suffices, as it's most of the time +20-21f and 66P+K is 21f. On CH, its +24 so yeah.

- 1/7 P+K+G P+K

6 K+G, 6_P, 6PP = 67 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 3K P = 66 dmg
(to Right) 6 K+G, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 6_PPP = 65 dmg
6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PPP = 64 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg (+1 DP)
6KKP = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg
(to Right) 6_PPPK = 60 dmg
KKP = 52 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6KPP = 75 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 4PP = 66 dmg
(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4PP = 74 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 6K+G, 6_P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 72 dmg

Added "to right/left" category to express the Shun's movement, as stance (Closed/Open) seems to mean nothing here. In combo 6 delay 6_PPP a bit (to Right).

- 214 P+K (10+ DP, costs -3 DP)

236 KP, PP4PP = 78 dmg
236 KP, PPKK = 74 dmg
236 KP, 46PPP P+K = 74 dmg
6_PP, 236KPP = 71 dmg
236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 70 dmg (+1 DP)
P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(Open) P, 2P, 46 PPP P+K = 64 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)

(CH, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 66, 236KPP = 94 dmg
(CH, Closed) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4PP = 87 dmg
(CH, Open) 6_P, 6K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 83 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 76 dmg
(11 DP, CH) 6_P, 6K+G, 43P+K P = 91 dmg
(11 DP, Closed, CH) 236KP, 3PPK (P+K+G) ) 90 dmg

In combo 9, second P in PP4PP misses.

- 214 K K (10+ DP, costs -2 & -3 DPs)

P, 6KKP = 80 dmg
P, 6KPP = 76 dmg
(Closed) P, KKP = 75 dmg
P, PP4PP = 71 dmg
PP, 6PP = 68 dmg
6_P, 6_P, 6PP = 66 dmg
(Open) 6_PP, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 65 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_P, 3KP = 65 dmg
P, 2P, 46 PP P+K = 65 dmg
P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 61 dmg (+1 DP)

(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4PP = 85 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PPKK = 81 dmg
(11 DP) 236 KP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 77 dmg (+1 DP)
(11 DP) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 81 dmg
(13 DP, Open) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 88 dmg
(13 DP) 236 KP, 43 P+K P = 83 dmg

- 3P (CH, 23+ DP)

6_P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 84 dmg
6_P, 236KP, 46PPP = 82 dmg
6_P, 236KP, 43P+K = 80 dmg
P, PP4PP = 76 dmg
6_P, 236KPP = 76 dmg
6_PP, 1P K = 75 dmg
6_P, 2P, 46PPP P+K = 75 dmg
6_P, 2P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg
6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 71 dmg
PK4, K+G = 71 dmg
P, 1P K = 68 dmg
3_PK (P+K+G) = 53 dmg

Be aware of the G cancelling after the launcher 3P here. I guess I did once 43P+K P on the 1st combo fpr 93 dmg, can someone confirm?

- 3K P (CH)

P, 1P K = 52 dmg
P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 48 dmg
P, 6PP = 48 dmg
P, 6_PPP (K4 to SOU) = 47 dmg

(4 DP) P, 6_PP4PP = 58 dmg
(6 DP) P, 236KPP = 59 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 6_PPKK = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 59 dmg
(8 DP, Open) P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 58 dmg

Not sure on 236 KP, 43P+K P on 8 DP combo, looks close but I always got green so I left out but check if you can do it!

- P 4K (CH)

(Closed) PP, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
(Closed) PP, PPP (K4) = 65 dmg
(Closed) PP, 43P+K = 60 dmg
(Closed) PP, 1P = 57 dmg
(Closed) PP4P (P+K+G) = 55 dmg
(Closed) PPP = 54 dmg
K+G = 47 dmg

(2 DP, Closed) PP, 46P P+K = 60 dmg
(4 DP, Closed) PP, 46PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 236KPP = 76 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) PP, 46PPP P+K = 72 dmg
(8 DP, Closed) PP, 43P+K P = 74 dmg

Yes, it seems Open stance is doomed for an eternal K+G here... ;-)

- P K (CH)

1P = 43 dmg
3P = 41 dmg
(Closed) 2K = 37 dmg
(Closed) 2P = 35 dmg

(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

Basically a safer version of P K4 with (far) less cajones.

9K+G

(none)

- 6 P+K P

P, 6PP = 67 dmg
6_P, 3KP = 66 dmg
(Closed) P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 66 dmg (+1 DP)
(Closed) 6_P, 6_PPP (K4) = 65 dmg
6KP = 64 dmg
6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 72 dmg
(4 DP) 6_P, 46PP P+K = 66 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 236KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 73 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(8 DP) P, 43 P+K P = 74 dmg

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A referential Checkpoint! Only above combos are checked and should work, the ones below are just for ideas (in many cases more, or sometimes less dmg may be possible)!
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- 4K P

2P, 6_P, 6 PP = 57 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 56 dmg
2P, 6_P, PPP(K4) = 55 dmg
2P, 1 P K = 54 dmg
2P, 6_PPP = 51 dmg

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236 KPP = 67 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 64 dmg

In combo 7 (Open) delay the last P a bit for a hit.

- K+G P

6 K+G, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 62 dmg
6 K+G, 6_PPP = 61 dmg

(4 DP) 6 K+G, 6_PPP4P = 72 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6 K+G, 66, 6_P, 236 KPP = 77 dmg
(6 DP) 6 K+G, 66, 236 KPP = 72 dmg
(8 DP) 6 K+G, 6_P, 43P+K P = 75 dmg

Walk just slightly forward after 6K+G in order to hit the first filler unch and the rest of the combo.

- 3 P+K (full charge)

1P K = 65 dmg
(Closed) 6PP = 61 dmg
(Closed) 3KP = 60 dmg
46PPP = 59 dmg

(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 46PPP P+K = 71 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 73 dmg
(8 DP) 43P+K P = 69 dmg

(CH) 6_P, 2P, 6 PP = 92 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_P, 3KP = 91 dmg
(CH) 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 87 dmg (+1 DP)
(CH) P, 6PP = 87 dmg

(CH, 4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 98 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 236 KP, PP4PP = 112 dmg
(CH, 6 DP, Open) 236 KP, 46 PPP P+K = 108 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236KP, 46PP P+K = 106 dmg
(CH, 6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 99 dmg
(CH, Open, 8 DP) 236 KP, 6_P, 43 P+K P = 116 dmg

Combo 3 hits only when up close.

- 6 P+K+G K (adds 1 DP before hit)

(1 DP) 6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
(1 DP) 1P K = 51 dmg
(1 DP) 6_P, 46PPP = 51 dmg
(1 DP) 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 49 dmg (+1 DP)
(1 DP) 6_PPP = 48 dmg

(4 DP) 6_PP4PP = 59 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46 PPP P+K = 59 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 60 dmg
(8 DP) 3PPK (P+K+G) = 57 dmg

Tighter timing on Open in 6_P starting combos. Combos 7 and 8 needs to be confirmed in Open stance.

- PPPK (CH)

1P K = 61 dmg
6PP = 57 dmg
46PPP = 55 dmg

(4 DP) 46PP P+K = 57 dmg
(6 DP) 46 PPP P+K = 68 dmg
(8 DP) 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

I find the easy to test these combos is to put opponent to"Guard and counterattack 1" aka guard, standing unch and delay the second P so that it does a CH, then delay the K (hit) part a bit too.

- K (jump, when descending)

2P, 1P K = 52 dmg
2P, 6 PP = 48 dmg
2P, 3K P = 47 dmg
8 P = 42 dmg

(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 55 dmg

- 46 P+K

P = 40 dmg

(4 DP) PP = 57 dmg

- 41236 P+G (6+ DP)

236P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
236P, 6_PP4PP = 56 dmg
236P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
236P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 45 dmg (+1 DP)

(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 69 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_PP4PP = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KPP = 66 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 3 PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 60 dmg (+1 DP)

- 6 P+G (follow-ups depend on reaction)

1P+K, P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+1 DP)
1P+K, 6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6PP = 34 dmg

(6 DP) 236P, 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 58 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 236KP, 46PPP P+K = 78 dmg
(8 DP) 236P P, 6_P, 236KPP = 71 dmg

Shun gets stronger combos out of 6P+G here but less pushback. If opponent crouches, 1P+K does not hit in combos 1 and 2. Use 6PP for consistent damage until 6+ DP.

- P+G (Oushin, adds 5 dmg to launcher dmg)

46P+K P = 45 dmg
1P+K combos

(4 DP) 46P+K PP = 62 dmg
(6 DP) 236 P combos
(8 DP) 236 P P combos

- K (Oushin, head towards) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

- P+K (Oushin) (21 dmg)

7/9 P+K+G P+K combos

- K (Zabantetsu)

6_P, 1P K= 54 dmg
6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 50 dmg (+ 1 DP)
6_P, 6PP = 50 dmg
6_P, PPP (K4) = 49 dmg
1P K = 47 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 60 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 236 KPP = 61 dmg

- 2 K (Zabantetsu)

2P, 1P K = 50 dmg
2P, 46PPP = 44 dmg
6 P+K = 34 dmg (+5 DP)

(6 DP) 2P, 46PPP P+K = 54 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43P+K P = 53 dmg

- P+K (Tentouritsu)

6_P, 6PP = 54 dmg
6_P, 6_PP4P (P+K+G) = 54 dmg (+1 DP)
6_P, 6_PPP(K4) = 53 dmg

(4 DP) 6_P, 6_PP4PP = 64 dmg
(6 DP, Closed) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 63 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 43P+K P = 61 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) 65 dmg

Buffering is more difficult in these combos for some reason. Easier to mash P here and forget the single P sometimes...
Combo 5 in Open needs to be confirmed.

- K+G (Tentouritsu) (25 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-2K (Soukokukyu, CH)

2P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 3KP = 57 dmg
6 P+K = 46 dmg (+5 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_PP4PP = 70 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 46PPP P+K = 80 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KP, 43P+K = 68 dmg
(6 DP) 236 KPP = 64 dmg
(8 DP) 2P, 43 P+K P = 65 dmg

-P+K P P (Soukokukyu) (20 dmg)

6 P+ K P combos

-K+G (Soukokukyu)

6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 53 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 6_P, PP4PP = 63 dmg
(6 DP, Open) 6_P, 236KPP = 65 dmg
(6 DP) 6_P, 46PPP P+K = 62 dmg
(8 DP) 6_PP, 43P+K P = 67 dmg
(8 DP) 6_P, 3PPK (P+K+G) = 64 dmg

-P+K (Soukokukyu, BT)

2P, 6_P, 1P K = 62 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 46PPP = 60 dmg
2P, 6_PP, 43P+K = 58 dmg
2P, 6_P, 6PP = 58 dmg
2P, 6_P, PP4P (P+K+G) = 57 dmg (+1 DP)

(4 DP) 2P, 6_P, PP4PP = 65 dmg
(4 DP) 2P, 6_PP, 46PP P+K = 61 dmg
(6 DP) 2P, 6_P, 236KPP = 68 dmg

In combo 8, delay the final P a bit for a connect.

-K (Soukokukyu, BT) (20 dmg)

8 K+G combos

-P+K (Kasen Gyou'in (adds 1 DP), CH)

1P+K combos.

Lau done! (please post your new combos, corrections and other notes of course!)

Chill · Mar 17, 2013

Okay back to it so here are some Aoi combos!

A couple of interesting tidbits:

- For /, the highest damage combo I could find comes at 0 DP! Also I realised that this combo works on Eileen, and El Blaze with some provisos, so I've updated those combos too.

- I thought I'd made a mistake when I looked back at the low damage combos for El Blaze, but after testing again it looks like his hitbox is slightly different, as I couldn't connect a . The combos do work on Eileen however so I've updated those and found a bunch of tweaks and corrections for previous combos.

Onwards!

Aoi

- (6 DP)

, , short dash, = 77 dmg

(CH) , , = 95 dmg

(8 DP, CH) , , , = 98 dmg

(8 DP, CH) , , (delay), , , = 101 dmg (The timing for this one is very difficult. I think there needs to be a delay before the standing so that , rebounds from the ground. Was very difficult to get with any consistency)

- , (8 DP)

, , short dash, = 86 dmg

-

, = 72 dmg

(6 DP) , ,, = 81 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 85 dmg

-

, , = 69 dmg

(6 DP) , = 74 dmg

-

forward dash, , , = 69 dmg

(6DP) , = 74 dmg

-

short dash, = 43 dmg

(8 DP) = 54 dmg

-

, , = 73 dmg

(6 DP) , = 79 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 81 dmg

- , (CH)

, = 63 dmg

(6 DP, Open) , = 66 dmg

(8 DP) , = 80 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 76 dmg

(4 DP) , = 85 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 90 dmg

(8 DP, Closed) , , , = 93 dmg

-

, , = 62 dmg

(6 DP) , = 66 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 79 dmg

- /,

, , = 79 dmg

-

, , short dash, = 89 dmg

(11 DP) , , , = 92 dmg

(11 DP, CH) , , , , = 107 dmg

- ,

, , short dash, = 79 dmg

(11 DP) , , short dash, = 96 dmg

(13 DP) , , , = 99 dmg

(13 DP, Open) , , , , = 102 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 67 dmg

-

, , , = 74 dmg

(8 DP) , , , , = 83 dmg

-

= 34 dmg

(6 DP) , , = 61 dmg

(8 DP) , , , short dash, = 86 dmg

kingheim · Mar 18, 2013

Hi, thanks for sharing combos.
My little contribution :

Aoi
-
, , = 67

-
, +, , = 80
6DP : , +, = 85

-
Open, 6 DP : , +, = 77

- BT +
Close : , = 62
Close, 2dp : , = 65
Close, 6dp : , = 71

Chill · Mar 21, 2013

Here's a start for Sarah's combos. Mainly refining known combos and I wouldn't be surprised if there was more damage to be eeked out, but the usual progression of damage through the DPs doesn't seem to be carrying on with Sarah's slightly heavier weight.

I did find one where you use within the combo though which I thought was pretty hilarious! Ultimate drink sacrifice...

Sarah

- (6 DP)

, , short dash, = 77 dmg

(CH) , , = 95 dmg

(8 DP, CH) , , , = 98 dmg

- , (8 DP)

, , short dash, = 86 dmg

-

, = 72 dmg

(6 DP) , ,, = 81 dmg

(8 DP) , , , = 85 dmg

-

, , = 54 dmg

, = 54 dmg

, , = 69 dmg (The timing for this is much tighter than for lighter characters. Time the standing P towards the end of the flop animation)

(4 DP) , = 60 dmg

(6 DP) , = 70 dmg

(8 DP) , , = 72 dmg

-

forward dash, , = 62 dmg

(6DP) forward dash, , = 74 dmg

(8 DP) forward dash, , , = 77 dmg

-

short dash, = 43 dmg

(8 DP) = 54 dmg

-

, = 65 dmg

(Closed) , , = 73 dmg

(6 DP) , = 79 dmg

(8 DP, CH) , , , = 93 dmg

- , (CH)

, = 63 dmg

(6 DP, Open) , = 66 dmg

- (CH)

, = 69 dmg

(4 DP) , = 85 dmg

(8 DP, Closed) , , , = 90 dmg

-

, , = 62 dmg

(6 DP) , = 66 dmg

(8 DP) , , = 69 dmg

(11 DP) , , , = 82 dmg

- /,

, , = 79 dmg

-

, , short dash, = 82 dmg

(CH) , , short dash, = 101 dmg

(11 DP, CH) , , , = 104 dmg

- ,

, , short dash, = 79 dmg

(11 DP) , , short dash, = 88 dmg

- (CH)

, , = 67 dmg

-

(8 DP) , , , , = 75 dmg

-

= 34 dmg

(6 DP) , , = 61 dmg

(8 DP) , , , short dash, = 86 dmg

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