Small explosions: How to sell VF.

Discussion in 'General' started by Sharp7, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. Sharp7

    Sharp7 Well-Known Member

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    AND WE GONNA GET SALES [​IMG]!

    See that is the goal. To get them to sell copies of the game just so that its profitable enough to release new versions to consoles and not kill VF. For all we know VF5 could be the last VF O.O. Who cares if only the hardcore stay.

    Plus if ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS are playing a game, NO MATTER how hard it is, YOU WILL play it. No doubtttt.
    You have people devoting like 1514 hours to SF a shitty game, why? Cause their friends play, no other reason.

    PUT IN THA EXPLOSIONS This-

    basically I am all for whoring the fuck outta the image of the series. As long as the actual gameplay is the same of course.
     
  2. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    Nothing in all of Tekken makes the game look worse than those chintzy hit-effects. They are super bush league, at best.

    I swear to god that the little orange explosion is the same exact effect they had in Tekken 1 or 2, it's that bad. It looks that old as well, it has 16/32 bit look to it, like it really doesn't even belong there.

    In most games, the hit-effects are only there to cover up the gaps between hitboxes. I remember Sirlin, a few years ago, blogging about wanting to remove the hit-effects from HD Remix, but when they tested their build without them, the game looked like crap because the hitboxes weren't tight enough and every attack looked like it shouldn't have hit at all. Even when you look at the hitbox frames from SSFIV, there's still relatively large gaps between where you can hit and where you see the character sprite.

    Basically, VF doesn't need the hit-effects because the hitboxes are sufficiently tight around the character. There's many fewer gaps the the developers will need to hide. I think it makes the game more intuitive as well -- you're trying to hit where you see the character, instead of trying to hit where you know the hitbox ends from repeated practice.

    I feel like knowing your moves' exact ranges is a lot different than having to learn the exact range where your invisible hitbox starts to connect. Even worse, where your invisible hotbox connects with their invisible, hittable box.
     
  3. MarlyJay

    MarlyJay Moderator - 9K'ing for justice. Staff Member Gold Supporter

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    I for one like the explosions in Tekken. They're like, amazing showered with awesomeness.

    If CH were shown by a nice spray of blood and lightning, it'd be easier to hit check stuff and the game would be better. [​IMG]

    VF needs Blood, Lightning, explosions and a Giant tits item for every female character. Bonus animals/Daytona or Sega Rally Cars/Palm Tree's as characters wouldn't go amiss either.

    I may or may not be on the wind up[/size]
     
  4. Sharp7

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    Wow thats pretty awesome, after understanding that I feel like I respect VF alot more.

    But the thing is thats not what newbs are gonna be thinking, instead they'll be like "Lame it doesn't feel like I'm hitting them, where are the dramatic explosions?"

    I personally like the hit sound effects but that would be something to improve too, if it were possible to find much better hit effects anyway since I think there already pretty good. Maybe some screams of pain when you do a launcher or crush?

    Blood, Blood would make this game look SO MUCH BETTER. Holy crap that would be amazing.
    Persistent blood effects on the limbs that do the attack, oh man that would be amazing. Would really up the realism.
     
  5. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    Everytime I get hit, I don't spurt blood. I'd rather have sparkles than something so gawdy. How about damaged limbs if you want to go that far? A leg that will randomly give out if you're kicked in it too much.

    Too much?
     
  6. Sharp7

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    no that would mess up the gameplay. thats something for a whole nother game.

    and it wouldn't be EVERY HIT MASSIVE BLOOD EXPLOSION. but on like big launchers, or crushes just a lil blood maybe and a stain on their knee or w/e that caused the crush. I dunno SOMETHING... newbs need special effects
     
  7. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Fuck That World Heroes style Death Match Modes... Barb Wire gates, Buzzsaws sliding around you have to sidestep, Even DOA had the right idea if nothing else. Multitier stages without the ramps or stairs for outlandsih combos. I would love to see a VF where you can knock opponent thru glass doors and fight in a another room or whatever. It would be nice to see that element added.
     
  8. Allstar804

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    they need to scrap the vocals and music. splosions or not, it will not sell with the charecters sounding gay as fuck.
     
  9. KiwE

    KiwE Well-Known Member

    itt: jelousy
     
  10. TheUgg

    TheUgg Well-Known Member

    the thought of blood spraying off delicate little waifs like Aoi and Eileen is disturbing.
     
  11. TheWorstPlayer

    TheWorstPlayer Well-Known Member

    I find it....





    Sexy.
     
  12. mahmood1982

    mahmood1982 Well-Known Member

    cool. people need bloody VF.
    If Sega give up with VF let NetherRealm Studios and Ed Boon take control.
     
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  13. Sharp7

    Sharp7 Well-Known Member

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    I find the blood ideas great.

    especially eileen (who I hate cause of her voice/sillyness its just like HOW DOES A GIANT MAN GET BEAT BY A SMALL 14 YEAR OLD GIRL THIS ANNOYING FUCK) and pai (i dunno just find her annoying to play against with brad). seeing those girls getting chopped up will be nice [​IMG].

    honestly if ANYONE takes over VF, it will suck guaranteed unless they absolutely leave the gameplay exactly the same. The game is SO FINE TUNED so delicate, complicated, is EXACTLY THE RIGHT SPEED. any faster and most things will just be to fast to react to, any slower and it'll get boring. Each character plays so differently yet they are all balanced, the graphics are also still the best around. I'm in awe at the perfection of VF gameplay, I really am and I've played alot of games. I don't think anyone could maintain it.
     
  14. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    WARNING,DISTURBING IMAGE OF VF
     
  15. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Daaamn, that looks awesome. I wish I could save it at work since it prob won't be there by the time I get home.
     
  16. Seidon

    Seidon The God of Battle walks alongside me! Content Mgr El Blaze

    I'll send it to you
     
  17. quash

    quash Well-Known Member

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    oh man, i haven't seen that in years, haha
     
  18. Sharp7

    Sharp7 Well-Known Member

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    : )
     
  19. jinxhand

    jinxhand Well-Known Member

    FATALITY!
     
  20. CJA

    CJA Well-Known Member

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    FATALITY! </div></div> This is what sega has done to this franchise.
     
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