SSF4 Good Games Thread

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Because the match is old. This is like 2 months after the game came out it's probably even earlier than that.

 

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Really good games to Cozby.

Dude you filleted me so soundly it hurt.

Regardless I love playing you cause you show me how it should be done and how you can completely mind-fuck people in this game. I haven't really played anyone who can poke and pressure the way you can.

Your reaction time and execution are freaking deadly, but you have a mental edge that goes beyond that. I think you just understand the game and the system so well that you know what the other players best option is, even if they don't. You shut that down and leave them with nothing, or a more inferior option.

Trying to use Fuerte's U2 against you is absolutely a lost cause. You see it coming every time. I'm surprised you think his and Abel's U2 are cheap cause you're so damn good at avoiding them.

 

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Thanks man i appreciate the love as always. Try getting in Endless mode with me and other dudes I play and just watch what goes on. Patience goes a LONG fucking way in SF man

Just plain watching matches has helped me out ALOT. I know more about all the characters now. Check out www.youtube.com/frameadvantagedotcom and you'll get to understand how strong players view the game and how they think as well. I think I have a few matches on Seb's channel too.

 

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So why you stay ducking me? I've been trying to play you SF4 but seem to never answer the invites. Oh well ill be around (I would never cut SSF4 to just join random rooms.) Send invites if you want to play people.

 

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No problem man, you deserve the props.

Also, I have noticed how higher level players than me are very, very patient with their attacks; not always but a lot of times they are very careful.

I lack patience for one but I also get nervous if I realize that the other player is better than me. I suddenly can't do my Ultras or my good combos. Something about the match may start to rattle me a little, and for some reason, my execution goes straight out the window. Even just staying calm would go a long way for me.

I also think that Fuerte could be one of, if not the least, powerful characters in the game. I'm certainly not complaining about tiers in this post but he can't survive too many mistakes before the round is done for. If they hit me with a mostlt or fully charged Ultra, it almost always kills me. Even half of Fuerte's life isn't really enough to survive an Ultra, I've lost a bunch that way where another character would have survived for a few more exchanges...

 

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The fact that Fuerte isn't that strong and can't take much hits is why you get respect for using him, even if you lose.
Well, at least I give you mad props for giving Fufu a chance (I use him as well, but Dudley is mah main)

 

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Give me a holler when you can. I play late and I think im gonna stay @ home tomorrow so I'll be free.

EDIT: Didn't you whip me last time we played VF!? GOODSHIT

Shit my friends Shank and Victor both got featured on SRK. Sons of bitches

MOAR EDIT: Thanks to Joe for playing me a few today and Fiend for letting me stick in his room when i randomed everyone away with Guy gimmicks. You held that shit DOWN(/BACK!) Bingo ALL DAY

We shall continue later

 

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Ooooh, I really have to learn to Guacamole Guy's Bushin Flip on reaction.

There's something weird about some characters jumps in this game. I almost have to predict when they will jump to land Guac Leg clean. The EX version swallows all kinds of moves but it's not something I think you can do on reaction. I throw EX out once in a while to get out of pressure, or get out of the corner, on my wake up and have accidentally swallowed moves I didn't even know where airborne.

I think the Guacamole Leg is a cool move but I have trouble using it effectively enough to actually stop someone from abusing jump-ins. I don't go for it often enough, and when I do, it isn't always effective. At least it's not effective enough to scare them out of doing what they're doing.

Can EX Guac. on wake-up beat Ibuki's cross-up Kunai??? Her
"vortex" trap with the LP Kunai cross-up is god damn evil sometimes. Fuerte doesn't seem to have much of an answer for her. The Neck Breaker makes Fuerte's run mad dangerous, and it also shuts down focus attacks. Against Ibuki, I'm starting to get afraid to run at all unless I've knocked her down. It's not safe to use it to try to pressure of bait her though. All you're going to bait is it a move that beats the run straight out.

I think Ibuki is going to be one of Elf's worst match-ups. As far as the new characters, most of them can play Fuerte really well, but it's Ibuki, Hakan and Cody, to a lesser extent, that can really fuck him up. Versus a good Hakan or Ibuki I sometimes feel powerless.

 

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Hakan is garbage.

 

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You don't think he has some useful stuff?

He's got the slide into body splash that does good damage, he's got long limbs and thus has good range on his normals, he's got that crazy running grab thing and he a command grab.

I've never used him at all but he seems solid from some people that I've played against that use him.

I would watch some Hakan vids and see what the tournament players are doing/trying to do with him. It's at least a good way to see what may be possible. The game is so new that he probably hasn't been explored very fully... Might take some time for his strengths to shine through.

 

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Hakan is better than he appears to be I faced a few faced solid Hakans online and many of his moves keep me guessing the whole time and the slide prevents me from abusing any projectile when I play against him and I really like his other ultra not the oil coaster but the other one. No character in SF is trash you just have to play him better. Even Dan is a great character aside from his terrible fireball ultra he is rock solid overall as well in the right hands

 

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Quoted for truth!!!!
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That shit raise his tier level for combo abilIty on cancel.

GG to Cozz B!! Nice Guy. Solid movements and set ups. Sorry if it felt like i was be repetitive. I got a invite to play SF4 when i wanted to play VF so i was forcing myself to stick around. I remember asking for a session so i had to bless you once you came to the room. Hopefully ill stay focus the whole way through. I just don't want you to break out because of my playstyle.

 

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Well I followed Hakan since it's release. His problems don't only come from his lack of a reliable anti air, susceptibility to crossups, inability to crossup or his absolute pointlessness if not oiled up.

It's he has to be oiled up to be competitive and not even necessarily more dominant that say Gief or Thawk. The oil gives him more range and some damage bonuses and a auto tech on RH kick. Reading the slide is the easiest thing in the game unless your a habitual fireballer and the oil dive and super are all but useless. The opponent has become EXTREMELY predictable if you catch them by either.

Throw in all the shortcuts that plenty of Hakans have admitted fuck up Hakans game giving way to many unintentional moves and you've got a shit character.

Sure someone will make this pile of shit viable and cheers for him, he can feel special all by himself.

I completely disagree that in SF there is no garbage characters. Some characters just have MAJOR disadvantage on paper which does become a factor in high level play especially in a 2D game. Off a jumping strong Hakan gets a oil slide or a shitty damaging Ultra 2. Ryu gets a super fireball that does more damage than both. Also assisted by his zoning game and uppercut. Don't let me get started on Sagat and various other characters.

Sure you can get outplayed by someone using a shitty character but that doesn't mean the characters not shitty.....you are or you're sleeping/don't know the matchup.

Hakan will be what ROCK was in SCIV, a character that you CAN win with but good fucking luck.

I'm winning twice as much and I switched to Dan.

Comedy.

 

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Good games IamShidosha, face him in a rank match one time. His E.Honda is pretty good.

 

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He's on crack and doesn't want to face the facts. I hate that "you just have to play him better" BS. Sure a slap in the face can knock someone out just like a punch in the face can.

But you don't see men going around slapping each other outside of San Francisco. Tiers exist and not all characters are equal. Shit even the SF people admit that.

 

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Hakan should've gave is spot to Rolento fuck all that.

Funny thing i notice yesterday about SSF4. Im really starting to hate all the tap tap combos this game has to offer. As of late it kinda bullshit watching repeated weak attacks into specials. It seems like Boxing matches. Everythings being set up off the jab. A Million fucking jabs. The novelty is wearing off a bit to me. I need VF5:FS now.

 

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I got the 360 version, so I'm ready to play you guys on that non-curing cancer system, the 360. So yeah, hit me up.

 

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The funniest thing is noone really bothers linking to mediums unless it's a canned combo. I actually played SF the other day against AZ after forever off and damnit everything makes sense to me in VF. Even before I knew the +'s and -'s everything seemed to make sense.

I've been buttering people with Dans standing medium kick to comic relief in the game and all I can think while doing it is "Goddamn I wish I had a overhead!" I only use it because it hits most low attackers and has more range than most jabs. Why all characters don't at LEAST have an overhead I have no idea.

P.S. Rolento would have been the truth!

 

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TWP it sounds like you'd enjoy KOF a lot more than SF4