Tekken vs VF game - be interested or diss it?

Namco employees: "Virtua Fighter is on a level that Tekken cannot ever be at". The quote was that Tekken would never be as good as VF. This is coming from the developers of Tekken. Keyword being 'never' as good as VF.

VF5R > T6BR in everything but popularity.

Calling me or anyone else on the forum a fanboy? Pot meet kettle. You hate VF so much that you registered to this site to (poorly) defend Tekken at any chance that you can get. Your posts are littered with pro-Tekken rants with little factual or objective information.

Your arguments consist personal attacks "none of you have knowledge" and "you're fanboys". Wow! That proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tekken 6BR is as deep as Virtua Fighter 5R.

If you've truly been around since 2001 and you've been playing the VF and Tekken series then 'wow' us with your extensive in-depth knowledge of the systems and prove, objectively, that the games are similarly deep and on the same level strategically.

Slapping the VF name on something as watered down as Tekken isn't exactly doing any of the hardcore fans of VF a favor.

VF tries to create relatively accurate depictions of the fighting styles that each character represents. Taka-Arashi is certainly a more authentic reflection of sumo moves than something like a Ganryu or E.Honda. Because that's what VF is. A more realistic fighter than anything else being offered.

Is stuff like TFT realistic? No. But it's still a far cry from fireballs, devil characters, and zebras.

Remember, AM2 killed this versus game idea twice. They wouldn't make a lame watered down arcade fighting game to sell more machines and rake in more quarters. So would I play a versus game if it wasn't more like VF than Tekken? It doesn't matter because I don't have to worry about that because we know AM2 has enough respect for the VF brand that they wouldn't allow that ever to happen.

If this game comes out it will be more VF than Tekken in terms of game play.

And I love the "I merely asked". No, you "merely" came to this forum with an incredibly biased pro-Tekken agenda.

 

To what purpose? To make my edick bigger? To make yours bigger? Please.

There is/was a lot of old-way thinking on this board that VF>Tekken. Sure, maybe it was, back then, around the same time that some random guy from Namco would have stated that. But now they're two different beasts. People that actually try to play both see how the two chefs cook their chicken stew differently. One's spicy, one's sweet. As Jeneric puts it: lots of people who know their games simply prefer how one plays. Sure, I played Guilty Gear a lot and at a pretty decent level, but do I prefer it over ST? Nope. Do I think ST is better than GG? Nope. Just different.

That's your problem, and people like you: you can't accept the idea that something is as good as, just different. Most likely because it makes you feel inferior in some way. "My team iz da best" or some silly high school way of thinking.

Which brings me back to the point that this thread was asking:
If the versus game doesn't play like VF, would you still play it? You haven't answered that question yet. I simply reiterated it, and brought up the elephant in the room, which is the issue about VF being the less popular game system, so why would that system be chosen to carry a game which was meant to help repopularize the series.

Climb out of your fanboy shell first and try to see that question for what it is. It's not about whose e-dick is bigger, it's a question based on reality.

 

Theoretically, that's an impossible question. How would be know if KOF was "more rewarding" (I think that's a better term) than say ST if nobody ever played KOF?

 

Some random guy from Namco? No. Several employees from Namco have said multiple times, during the VF4 and VF5 era, even up to 5R version B, that the VF series is still ahead of Tekken in terms of depth.

Not only that but Namco has had meetings about how Tekken could more like VF...so much that they approached Sega about licensing the character rank and customization features that originated from VF4. Namco also had meetings about approaching Sega and AM2 about doing a versus game but were shot down including being shot down the most recent time after making a very serious offer. We know that Namco is very hungry for VF versus Tekken because they've been leaking the idea to Japanese and foreign press to generate some interest.

And now they are different beasts? Tekken and Virtua Fighter? They are more similar now than they have ever been in the past. You have top VF and Tekken players in Japan going on Japanese message boards complaining about how the games are too similar. They aren't nearly as different now as they were in the past.

 

I'm gonna suggest staying off the internet for the next month or two then.

 

You still haven't answered the question, but:

Yes, I know that first hand. But the two games still don't play the same. Sure, VF's adapted more of Tekken's juggle system, while Tekken's adapted VF's tighter hitboxes, but the overall "style" still remains. The way each game rewards and punishes the player is still different. That's the part that leads towards which game players prefer.

 

That soon?


Man. Looks like this board is about to light up.

 

I made the best post in this thread, but I wanted to give Cozby the credit sorry guys.

 

I've already seen the promotional posters (are those on the internet yet?). We know it's coming. But I still doubt highly that a VF versus Tekken game is going to be more Tekken than VF in terms of game-play because AM2 would never budge. VF characters without a guard button? Please.

But honestly, whatever it takes for a decent console port of VF5R, is fine by me. If getting 5R means AM2 and Namco teaming up to make a horrible game, then whatever. But if that game also turns out to be great? Then it's a win-win scenario for everyone.

Nevertheless if Tekken vs VF comes to consoles how could Sega of Japan possibly turn down a 5R console release?

Imagine EVO2011 or whatever with T6BR, VF5R, and Tekken vs VF.....

If this happens I guess Namco is officially putting the kill on TTT2 then?

 

The already made tekken with a Guard button. We lovingly call it Soul Caliber 2 secret character HiBachi.

 

Namco did state that they're never going to make another TTT game, so... TTT2 not happening wouldn't be a real shocker.

 

I haven't seen that quote. Have you got a source?

 

Hmmm... I'm going to try to dig that out. IIRC, it was from a published magazine. I'll see if I can still find it, but it was a comment made during T4's time.

 

My question about a vs. game is the stages. Are they going to be VF stages or Tekken? Will there be ringouts or infinite?

 

Tekken has infinite and walled stages. Virtua Fighter has walled, semi-walled, no-wall, breakable wall, and then drop-wall stages (like Wolf's in 5R).

So the most unique stages between the two are infinite stages and no-wall stages. Tekken doesn't have ring outs. And Virtua Fighter has finite stages.

So would you have stages with no walls where you can ring out Tekken characters? Or would you see VF stages with infinite movement?

 

BR also has breakable walls, and breakable floors.

 

No game should have ringouts. Including VF.

 

What about "out of the ring"s?

 

I agree with that. I have a big love hate thing with ringouts.