Tekken vs VF game - be interested or diss it?

The way final Showdown looks I think this T vs. VF might work. I would just keep it to original cast for both games for balancing issues.

 

the Idea of a TekkenXVirtuaFighter is not a bad idea. in fact both games grew up together in the arcades, even the developers are friends among themselves. but the things i see that are the problems among both franchises are these:

-Roster: VF doesnt have a particularly huge roster, actually is about half of that of TK's but this is still not a huge problem over all.

-System: Because the way both games are(VF being 3 buttons and TK being 4)will have quite a few gameplay clashes. i could go into detail like the differences in Sidesteping but im confident that AM2 and Namco would figure out a balance between the two systems.

-Character Interaction: The Basis of a Crossover has to have Rivalries. The VF Cast have alot of character but would they have the chemistry in matching(pairing) with the TK Cast? to me this is a very important thing to have.

-Overall Appeal:Will people even be interested in a Crossover with the Godfathers of 3D fighting games? unlike crossovers like MVC2, and CVS2, the Masses dont know VF all to well....in fact people already forgot who Sonic is, let alone know who Akira Yuki is. It would be a Tough Game to sell as a whole, and this is something both developers would have to look at.

i kinda have a feeling im going to get all kinds of flame on my first post but im happy im apart of the VF community and i hope to get to know you guys.

 

Ono says Virtua Fighter vs Tekken is too obvious.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=261538

 

The draw for SF vs. T for me is seeing the tekken characters in 2-d and vice-versa.

Plus Tekken almost plays like a 2-d fighter anyway.

 

I don't see how VFxT would be obvious... If that was the case, it would've been out by now, but that ain't going down... Plus the way VF plays it would be interesting to see Nina or Law doing some rushdowns using the VF system, but again, not so obvious, because if that was the case, it would have been inevitable and thus we'd be seeing a tech demo or something of the game by now...

Anyway, I'm pretty sure Ryu's gonna have a wavedash, and Ken should have string/kick cancels like Nina and Hwoarang. I do see TxSF being very unbalanced in theory, but I would love for Namco to put more effort in this (like T3 effort). As long as this game doesn't have a SC mode, I'm good...

 

I just can't wait to see a rage mode spinning piledriver.

 

I'll be getting Tekken v SF but not SF v Tekken.

I think if there was a Tekken v VF game it would really help in getting more people to play the game.

Give Akira a few strings, wicked cool animations and it would be a done deal.

 

What would an Akira ten hit look like?

Something like this I would hope

 

Didn't we all rave about the possibility of a a Virtua Fighter vs Soul Calubur game when we saw VF5R weapon winposes?

Akira' naginata vs Seong Mi-Na's, Goh's hidden dagger vs Setsuka's... and Vanessa's rifle vs Cervante's pistol i guess

 

I've been saying this since Tekken came out. It would definitely work out. They have characters that are practically the same (Akira/Julia)... It probably would have beefed up the VF5 sales if it came out earlier (or we would've gotten VF5R - ok scratch that it wouldn't)...

 

I'm going to agree that Tekken compared to VF is a joke. I mean Tekken has game mechanics that don't work! You actually get punished for trying to use a roll or get up any other way then just standing and blocking. Now be that this is true in VF in some ways the mechanic works and I have never felt that me using a game mechanic to help prevent me from being raped on the ground will actually lead to me being raped. lol. I bought Tekken 6 because my friends were playing it. Now given it is probably the most balance Tekken out of all of them, that is just like saying that a turd in the toilet is the best looking out of all the turds you have seen. I played Tekken 6 maybe a total of 20 matches and then stopped.

 

Tekken is more offensive based imo. That's why you can attack characters on the ground... I think if they had more options for the opponent on the ground that allowed them to get up, it would be cool... Honestly, depending on what move made you fall and where would determine what would be the best ukemi option. Rolling left/right ain't always great, just as rolling backward ain't always great. You can't get attacked if you instantly ukemi to the left/right though, but it can allow you to get thrown. Just like with any game, you have to learn the mechanics and not just do the first thing that comes to mind. That's like saying that the tech rolling in SSF4 sucks because the best option is to tech, when that's not always the best option to do. The only real mechanics that suck imo in Tekken are throwing and sidestepping.

VF does have better mechanics overall including better defensive options, but I don't like the hitboxes in VF all the time. I know there are aerial moves that can still get hit with moves that clearly would miss in any other game. There are some moves in VF that if you hit the character while on they're tech rolling, sometimes you can hit them, and sometimes you can't. So the way I see it, they both have some flaws in the ukemi sense. My personal opinion, T5DR and T3 were the most balanced.

Honestly, if Tekken is a joke, tell Harada-san and tell him ways to fix it, rather than bitch about it. You're more than likely will see a new Tekken than a VF anyway. Fighting games are coming back full force. No need to cry and whine about it. Just pick your game(s) and play on...

 

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Wait what.

 

I call it good customer service. Good for them.

 

If the bear gets a fire ball I will be playing T vs. SF

 

Kuma is Namco's blanka. He rolls and hops all over the place... They're equals no doubt.

 

if kuma gets blanka shock then I will leave VF















for a day

 

Yeh, if you techroll to the side in Tekken you open yourself up to sweeps. Backrolling in Tekken will get you KILLED unless you are a considerable distance away as you can be relaunched!

Saying that VF doesn't punish you for getting up incorrectly is a foolish thing to say also. In fact VF's wakeup game can be just as dangerous if not more dangerous in certain situations!

If Jeffry splash mountains you trust me you don't want to do a wakeup kick! He will do an OM twice in the same direction and if you rising kick he will Press for OM , get a back crumple and low throw you! This leaves you with such a tiny amount of health left.

If you fall face down head towards you don't want to tech roll either as you will staggered in the back. If you fall face down head away if you instant recover you will get back staggered also.

Any time Sarah knocks you down with a throw or any knockdown where she has time to move she can OM in the direction her back is facing, do OM and get a side crumple (then bounce combo) if you do a rising kick.

With characters like Sarah and Akira who have damaging 14f mids (Sarah's case and Akira ()) they can punish rising kicks with these moves as soon as they see you twitch if the player has good enough reactions (I can do this offline in Quest mode).

Then there's also moves that hit you when you techroll giving you another knockdown. Moves such as Akira and Jacky .

Not to mention that when you get up off the ground in VF you are at such a large disadvantage you cannot even fuzzy guard you're forced to either ETEG or make a conscious decision between attack or block.

Then there's also shenanigans that happens in VF on wakeup such as El Blaze hopping over you on wake up and if you rising kick he can either low throw you if it was a low rising or launch you if it was a mid rising. There's also Marly Jay's favourite technique of doing Eileen's Zenk flip in your face on wakeup to fool you that he made a mistake and you can now rising kick him, then he does Eileen's back step stance to get out of range of the rising kick then flying punches you to get a combo. Vanessa can do her step back charge kick whenever she knocks you down and if she sees you wakeup kick she can get a crumple combo and if not she is at a safe distance anyway and can cancel the kick or even switch stance.

Also:

I agree entirely. The dodgy hit boxes in VF and "magic moves" piss me off. Something's wrong when you anticipate the opponent to abare at -5 then your elbow gets beat out anyway by some mystical power.

Now comes a slew of comments saying "you suck if you get hit by shit like this". Begin.