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Anybody can show results like that with hard work.

Two simple exercises:

Strength Chews (modified strength shoe workout):
Hang two 45lb plates from your bottom jaw before every meal & chew normally.

American Staffordshire Terrier Pull Ups (Pit Bull Ups):
Bite the up bar and (with control) use your neck and jaws to pull your shoulders over the bar.

 

LOL

 

"Promotional squabble stalls Fedor’s next fight"
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-fedor031010

My conspiracy theory: the Russian mafia's involved.

 

Fedor is gunna fuck up his legacy.

 

I wish UFC 112 wasn't looking like a landside victory for both Penn and Silva but should be a fun card on Saturday.

in other news, Silva is bored

Silva looks to move to Welterweight/heavyweight division

Anderson Silva is so good, and has been so dominant as the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s middleweight title-holder, that it’s big news when he doesn’t obliterate an opponent.

Silva already holds the UFC record for consecutive wins (10) and, on Saturday, will break a tie with Matt Hughes and Tito Ortiz if he defeats Demian Maia in the main event of UFC 112 at Ferrari World and reels off the sixth consecutive successful defense of his middleweight belt.

Anderson Silva loves to take on new challenges and may drop weight to compete in the welterweight division.

But how does UFC welterweight champion Anderson Silva grab you? Or UFC light heavyweight champion Anderson Silva? Or, better yet, UFC heavyweight champion Anderson Silva?

Well, it’s far from a guarantee that he’ll ever fight for even one of those other belts, but it’s not because the thought hasn’t crossed the soon-to-be 35-year-old’s mind. He’s not the type to call out an opponent and challenge a champion in another division, but he said after a news conference Wednesday that he is seriously considering a drop to 170 pounds for two fights.

One he’d take to see if he could successfully make the welterweight limit, and a second would potentially be for a Superfight with champion Georges St. Pierre.

St. Pierre has put a stranglehold on the welterweight division similar to the one that Silva has on the middleweights. So, naturally, talk of a St. Pierre-Silva fight has arisen. UFC president Dana White has put a damper on the talk recently, however, because he’s begun to believe that Silva is too big for St. Pierre.

If Silva were to drop to 170 to meet St. Pierre, it would create perhaps the biggest fight in UFC history, matching the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world. Silva said it’s possible, though he was careful not to demand a title bout or call out St. Pierre.

“I’d like to test myself and I always love to take on new challenges,” Silva said of his thoughts about a drop to 170 pounds from the middleweight limit of 185. “It’s not that I want to go fight Georges St. Pierre for his title. There’s no doubt in my mind that he’s the reigning champion, the absolute champion, in that weight category. But I just want to test myself and see how I’d do at that weight.”

Silva, who recently signed a new eight-fight contract with the UFC, said he hasn’t made 170 pounds in about five years. He’s not looking to campaign in the division, however, and two fights at the weight wouldn’t change that, even if he were successful.

Silva has the otherworldly kind of talent, though, to make an even bigger splash. He’s already knocked out Forrest Griffin, a former light heavyweight champion and if close friend and training partner Lyoto Machida weren’t holding the UFC’s 205-pound belt, he might be eyeing a run at it too.

He also acknowledged an interest in fighting at heavyweight. He’s got the kind of frame to add on the weight and could compete around 225 pounds.

Whether that would be enough to allow him to deal with the behemoths at the top of the division – such as champion Brock Lesnar and No. 1 contender Shane Carwin – is another matter entirely. But one of the things that makes Silva so great is that he thinks big.

“It would be disrespectful for me to say I want to fight Brock Lesnar, who is the heavyweight champion right now,” Silva said. “I need to test myself at heavyweight first before I talk about who I want to fight. But I definitely have interest in testing myself as a heavyweight.”

It would be an enormous boost for the sport if he could make a run at four UFC belts, much like golf benefited in 2000 from Tiger Woods’ run at the grand slam.

There are only two men in UFC history who have held championships in multiple divisions. B.J. Penn has been champion at welterweight and currently holds the lightweight belt. Randy Couture has had multiple stints as both the heavyweight and light heavyweight champion.

Four is unheard of, though, and the race to accomplish it would be an enormous story.

“I understand how big that would be,” Silva said of a run at all four belts. “I already have [three] titles [in the UFC, Shooto and Cage Rage] and it would be a great thing to try to accomplish. Only time will tell what will happen. I would like to try to go to do that, but I’ve had success by focusing on what I have to do and nothing else. I just take one step at a time.”

Hughes praised Silva’s mental toughness and said it’s been a key reason why he’s been able to hang on to the belt so long. Penn shook his head at Silva’s longevity at the top. Silva has held the belt since Oct. 14, 2006, and recently broke Ortiz’s record for most days as the champion. Ortiz held the UFC’s light heavyweight belt from April 14, 2000, until Sept. 24, 2003, when he lost it to Couture.

“It’s amazing,” Penn said of Silva’s lengthy run at the top of the middleweight heap. “To do that for that long and to be at the top for that period of time, it’s amazing.”

It’s nothing, however, compared to what may come. If Silva keeps the belt by getting past Maia on Saturday, he could be in store for some magnificent adventures.

If he ever gets in position for a heavyweight title fight with Lesnar, the UFC might need to bring in a couple of armored trucks to haul in the money he’d make.

Silva, though, isn’t motivated by money as much as he is by pushing himself and testing the limits of his skills. It’s why he’d think about shedding the pounds to fight St. Pierre or to even consider taking on the gargantuan Lesnar.

Silva is already a larger-than-life character, but the best may be yet to come. His idol is the comic-book character Spider-Man, he said, noting: “Ever since I’ve been a kid, I’ve wanted to be a superhero. That would be kind of cool.”

If he beats St. Pierre and he beats Lesnar, it’s pretty much guaranteed he’ll never have to dream of becoming a superhero again. Do that and he’ll be one in real life.

 

Fucking awesome. Let BJ do roids and fight Anderson!

 

Argh!

Championship fights = boo!

Penn = robbed (he could have tried harder, though)

Silva = I don't know how to explain what happened. It went from awesome to funny to wow to WTF?!

 

What i want to know is why the hell do these so called UFC fans who go to these events and sit there and boo the likes of Anderson Silva and other good fighters just because they don't always see a KO! Anyone that sits and boos is not an MMA fan and they are simply just blood hunters who pay tickets to just see one thing!! I loved that fight with ASilva and Damian , great technical bout so fuck all those who sit and boo i certainly wouldn't go in throwing bombs and risking getting caught just to please the crowd!! Especially at that level one mistake and its bye so really people really need to stop that booing shit coz they don't have a clue!! You would think these dumb ass Yanks would understand this and Dana White......Thick as shit! He went up to Silva's corner to complain!! WTF!!! If i was ASilva i would say look stop booing or you come in here and see how long you last you dumb yank bitches!! Seriously i want to talk to Dana White for that outrage, Silva should go some place else where he is appreciated!!!!

 

The countdown to the highly anticipated rematch of Machida vs. Shogun... BEGINS...!!!

 

First, the fight was in Abu Dhabi, so I'm not sure how you discerned that only Americans were booing. Obviously there is a difference in the level of knowledge of the sport from place to place, and the more ignorant the crowd, the more likely they are to boo anything that isn't a knockout. I attended the last UFC event in New Jersey and witnessed a lot of booing, even during the GSP vs. Hardy fight which I actually found very engrossing. But I've also attended several events in Las Vegas where the crowd is much more MMA savvy and you don't hear any booing when the fight gets more technical.

Second, Dana has been clear since the fight that his displeasure with Anderson came from his taunting and showboating, not from his cautiousness. Dana left the fight before the 5th round and didn't even get a chance to witness the extent of Anderson's timidity, which if you're not aware, is actually against the unified rules of MMA.

I have to say, the amount of random anti-American rage on this board is really unattractive.

 

I don't get it. Silva's the champ, he's the one holding the belt, right? Why in the hell would he go chasing after the challenger?
Why would he put himself at risk when he's already won the fight?
I mean, it happens in boxing all of the time where a fighter is up by points and just decides to play it safe and win.
Everybody's up in arms about "you're supposed to give us a show"... if I was Silva, I'd say "no, motherfuckers, I'm supposed to win. That's what the fuck I do."

He brought it to him in the beginning but Maia's gameplan was shit. "Wait for him to attack and then I will grab one of his limbs."

That's why GSP is going to pose the biggest threat to Silva, cuz he doesn't wait around for openings, he makes them.
Not saying that I think that GSP can beat Silva, cuz I think Silva is a more complete fighter.

Lastly, why don't people get on GSP when he doesn't finish matches? Because taking down your opponent and keeping him down looks a lot more exciting than two guys dancing around each other not even hitting each other. I think that fourth round Silva was trying to prove a point. The point was that if Silva doesn't do anything, nothing would happen.
Why should Silva be the aggressor the whole entire time? You want the belt? Go get it.
Maia was just scared of getting ktfo. That 5th round Maia should've gone all out, I mean, dude you're going to lose anyway, might as well go out all out.

Edit: Just read this article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-ufcsilva041010

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. Wow. And that GSP fight, according to Dana, not happening.

“He doesn’t deserve to fight GSP,” White fairly spat."

Please... Dana must be afraid that Silva would make his golden boy, GSP, look as bad as he makes most other great fighters look.
Both those fighters deserve to fight each other. Granted, Silva's a little bit off his rocker saying that he felt disrespected and that's why he did what he did. I personally feel that Silva didn't want to give Maia the chance to do what Maia said he would do. That's understandable but I gotta agree that if Silva felt disrespected, he shoulda punished Maia harder.
What I still don't understand was Maia's lack of aggression and how nobody's talking about that.

Anyway, the fight itself shouldn't have even happened. Maia was a 3rd string pick. Dana knows this.
Silva did what he had to do. Just like GSP did against Hardy. That was boring too but GSP wasn't going to stand and bang with Hardy. That would've been stupid on GSP's part. So he took him down, over and over and won by points. As he should've.

 

EXACTLY! Why the hell was he getting booed ! It should of been Damien on the offensive to get the belt not the other way around. Still does not excuse booing in any mma event full stop! Its so fucking disrespectful!! These guys go through fucking hell and back!!! And then to get thrown that bS. When you get 2 guys in a cage who are both that good at that level that's what happens it's a stale mate and that just means you have a more technical fight taking place* (better in my opinion)! If people want to see quick knock outs then they should put pros versus semi pros!

 

i have to disagree with u here.

1st of all, i thought maia did go for broke, more in the 4th than the 5th, but he was throwing haymakers from knees!!! Did silva throw a punch the last 2 rounds.

2nd. Also, why should silva risk himself? Okay maybe he shouldn't, but there is a big difference between not risking urself and not fighting at all.

3rd. In my opinion damien maia won the final 2 rounds. He might not of looked as pretty in them as silva did, but judges judge based on there interpretation of what they think winning is. Many, many times it is evidenced that many judges consider activity, and pushing the pace to be winning. Some think that more punches landed = winning regardless of who is landing the better punches. I don't really agree with either of those, but i do feel like a lack of fighting can be losing, and i wholeheartedly feel like maiai won the final 2 rounds. Won? Well, i felt like Silva gave them away. I would have scored the combo dummy ahead vs the performance he put on for the final 10 minutes of the fight. If you are silva, in ur attempt to "play it safe", u just gave maia the best chance he had of winning.

Truth is though, i don't think silva was so much playing it safe. I think Silva COMPLETELY gassed. Which is fine. Except for the fact he didn't blow his energy fighting, he wore himself out showboating, and disrespecting maia. How stupid is that? In fairness, he didn't know his stamina was gonna runout twice as quick, but it is what it is. He wore himself out acting like a clown, and didn't have anything left to close the fight. Should have saved the energy used doing lunges in the ring, and used it to throw punches in the 4th and 5th round. And given that. I think the fans had a right to boo him. It would be like if u went to a concert and the lead singer lost his voice talking on the phone between sets. ridiculous.

If Silva fought like that vs GSP, it would be a onesided 5 round decision in favor of GSP...if Silva was lucky!!!

 

New post, since it isn't too related to my last rant.

The entire night of fights suffered from being overseas in an outdoor arena. In all the notable fights, the atmosphere played on the fighters dramatically. It was more than likely hot as fuck there. I checked the weather in abu dhabi at midnight my time (in oklahoma) and it was 82 degrees. I don't know how far they are ahead of us in time, but i'm guessing it was significantly hotter then. The high for sunday said 94 degrees. (this is all based on just googling tempurature in abu dhabi, so it's accuracy is unverified).

I think the reason BJ Penn, hughes, Gracie, Silva, and Maia all ran out of stamina early as a result of jet lag and the heat. I think it was a major contributing factor to BJ losing his fight. His stamina is always an issue, and jet lag+heat in outdoor arena was a double whammy i don't think he could overcome.

I'm sure it affected edgar too, but less than penn, and i don't think he would have won if it woulda been in the states. But good job to edgar. He fought the fight that was put in front of him and he won.

I just think all the fights would have been better if it wouldn't have been in an outdoor stadium, after a long plane flight.

 

you serious there's no way Silva was gassed he could of went on like that for quite some time!!! You see the mess of Damian's face?? No Way Damian won any of those rounds! He done nothing to Silva not a scratch dude open your eyes!!

They were fighting!! Damian wasn't committing himself a lot as i said hes good and so is Silva but Damian was the one who should of been the aggressor!

 

his names DEMIAN. not "damian"

 

Ok, lets break this Down.
Hughes - Gracie: Shitty kickboxing match. Renzo should of jumped guard TBH. I am, on principal, against jumping guard. That being said, the craptastic striking was not getting anybody anywhere. I love REnzo to death still, though. Fuck Hughes.

Penn v. Edgar. Penn lost, even though he should have technically won. I have no idea why he was so timid and what he refused to engage anywhere but with his jab, cross, and hook from clinch and distance. Penn needs to remember this is a fight, not a boxing exhibition.


Silva vs. Maia: 2 rounds of fun. O.K. After that, he should have finished him. Bullshit on punishing him and bullshit at not engaging. Based on that, Maia should have won. If your the champ you win wherever it takes place, not on running. If that was my fighter, I would of kicked him in the nuts in the locker room. Disgusting. I can understand a bit of feeling out, but there was no excuse for not trying to put Maia away. Blarg. I want an hour of my life back.

At least Kendal Groove lost.

 

The craptastic striking got Hughes somewhere.

no idea what Penn was thinking. shame but that loss is squarely on him.

I find Silva to be extremely frustrating. he's a puzzle for fighters, and gets away with shit that no one else can. it actually makes fighters more anxious because everything looks like a trap. everything. that's nuts. so he's awesome, fast mind, fast hands and feet back with technique.

I appreciate that he's bored and that no-one in his weight class is stretching his capabilities at all but if you can't respect the fighter in front of you (and Silva can't) then RESPECT THE FANS. They came for a title fight, not a 25 minute runabout. and you really can't fault Maia for that as Silva stuffed every attempt of Maia's to get in without taking damage and bring the fight to the ground where his strength lies.

Maia was on the advance the entire 25 minutes, looking for anything to advance his position. Silva was on the retreat for nearly the same amount of time using his above normal skill to stall a fight he could have won. easily. in the second round.

Edit: good on Dan Miragliotta.

 

Ok appreciate the fans but that doesn't mean going in to get knocked out in the process! its more about the fighters i certainly wouldn't go in just to please the fans especially at that level of competition! If you pay for a ticket just to see Ko's then don't go! Or shut up and appreciate the fighters! Shawdowdean i would like to see how you fair up to Silva and see how far you would get with 'kicking him'!

 

oh I agree totally but dude, Silva was in no danger at any time. at any time. Maia took the fight at short notice, was KO'd in the first minute of his second to last fight and is NOT a striker which is where Silva kept goading Maia to be. And then when Maia obliges do we get a stand up fight? no. we get three rounds of "try and catch me". what. an. asshole. there was only one fighter in that octagon and considering that Maia was swinging from his knees at one point I can safely say it wasn't Silva.

It isn't about KO's for me, it is about trying to finish a fight. Silva was not interested in finishing that fight and any criticisms he gets are fair.