There's life left in VF5!

Discussion in 'General' started by Llanfair, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    plague-cwa
    XBL:
    HowBoutSmPLAGUE
    Worldwide promotion + awesome game = more people playing VF!
    SEGA take note!
     
  2. Mackfactor

    Mackfactor Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Vf5sega
    lately the xbox live party for either mine or kaminaryi_oyagi has been full each day.
    Also, if ur on late midnight, im in some guys live party named MEDAMAJIJI from Japan we got alot of good japanese players that do mini tournies. yesterday was my first. they are pretty good players. Perhaps we can get like NA vs Japan..ill ask them 2 nite if they are interested in a mini NA/JAPAN tourney
     
  3. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Hell yeah im play atleast 5 dudes i never seen before lol!!!

    Believe it or not VF is the only game i feel like playing lately. I cant stand MW2 anymore. I might play KOTH gears 2 or drive a few laps of Nurburgring (Green Hell) in Forza 3.
     
  4. Kamais_Ookin

    Kamais_Ookin Well-Known Troll

    PSN:
    Kyooboona
    XBL:
    Kamais Ookin
    In the weekends if they're doing this let me know, I'll be in your team. [​IMG]
     
  5. Mackfactor

    Mackfactor Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Vf5sega
    sounds good kamais.
    i couldnt ask yesterday since i passed out early but ill ask. They really really hate lag. how fast is ur interent? is it corded? I think ull enjoy playing babao, his jeffrey is pretty good. Ill warn u ahead of time they will 2p and DM PK more often than NA players, but u just have to anticipate rather than react online. its a good exp because the style changes from morale to massive abare the hardest to yomi.

    btw kamais i started doing something to deal with 11 frame P or characters with 10 F P, tell me what u think. This is what i started doing with vanessa because in defensive i hated relying so much on her sabaki because i wasnt used to 12 fr JAB characters and i found 10 fr jabs very hard to deal with. neways, kamais tell me what u think. it will also show u where to 2p, and it might be helpful for jeffrey since he kinda has to use 2p. but where should it be a good time to 2p??

    take a look at jeff's command list for a sec with the frame data.

    ex.(JEFF)
    DASH ELBOW is 16 frames to execute. so if u minus it by 12. u should get 4. then u write 4,5,6 in acesending order. what that means is u have to be plus 4 against heavy in order to beat out there next attack assuming urs will do more damage at neutral situations. ull have to have plus 5 in order to use it against middle 10 frame jab characters, plus 6 for LIGHTS. When i started doing that i never realized how hard it is to Counter hit ppl with 10 frame jab cus they can nicely abare out of it. With this calculation, keep in mind if ur next move is HIGH then there 2p will beat out ur high. lets says one of ur move leaves u plus 1 on natural hit (lets assume, because i didnt see any plus 1 on ur frame data, on first glance). SO on ur frame data u would write above ur NH above the +1, 13,12,11. so it shows that ur next best options at plus one are 2p since u dont have a 13 frame mid for heavies or ur 12 frame jab on 11 frame mids, but there 2p will beat u if u go high. so for 11 frames at plus 1, ur best bet is to 2p or p. Yes u can evade, fuzzy G, Crouch fuzzy in those situations. But a good player has to mix up being morale and abare. I think this calculation will show u flowcharts vs other characters, when the best to 2p etc. from that, not only can u take morale measure but u can abare or 2p at the best situations. another thing i have came to realize is abare at -3 with 2p. yes, there 14/15 "mid" will fuck u up, but if u think about it, "most moves that deal good damage on CH start at around 16-18". Like say if i was using goh and i see u keep abaring at -3 situations with 2p. the most i can do to u head on without evading is a 14/15 frm mid since ur 2p comes out 15 frames. that means there very little risk for 2p at minus 3 besides ppl who have like sabaki's or characters that have like a evasive property in the beginning stages of there move ( i think like el blaze hop kick will beat u...). I think the payout is good, ur 2p will go right under highs, doesnt throw clash, and the only good damage they can do is a dinky mid, if ur 2p hits on abare... u know 2p stats, its crazy go right into flowchart. Mixup abare with morale defensive like FG and ull be creating alot of variables for them to think about each time ur at disadv. but at minus -4 -5 u should be careful if they do a CH KNEE or sumthing because theres the risk of eatting huge damage if u abare 2p at -4 -5 ( if they got a good counter hit move that activates in 16,17 frames ). But hes where u can fool them. show them ur gonna 2p, show them ur vulnerable to a CH at disadvantage, instead of abare 2p u can then either fuzzy or even better evade without the throw escapes to activate ur launch after a successful evade so ur launch will come out faster. I have noticed the moves that ppl use to Counter hit u have a slow recovery time, so what i do with goh is I single palm right aftering evading there move that they wanted to use to CH me like a KNEE. but keep in mind, u sacrifice throw escapes, but ull have enough adv to do a fast launch. so u have to decide to either eteg or sacrifice the eteg for a good attack on a successful evade. If u think about it, most ppl like to fight head on and attack back. maybe 1 out of 4 will be a throw so perhaps evading without the etegs in situations where they keep trying to attack u at disadv is better, but if they start throwing again thats when u can mixup abare or etegs again. Forgot to mention, u can also backdash and wait for their whiff. Im gonna test when i can backdash at what disadv and what adv.I dont know the actual math for it but ill find out soon. but i find backdashing best when u play annoying players ( i wont say who)at adv and look for their whiff.

    I duno if this is useful cause i havent really applied or tested. I highlighted moves that have high activation for ex jeffrey's 466 P has act of 4. so i circle moves that have 3 or more act. this will show u moves that should be pretty good to crush wake up or moves to bust out at mid distance with a good bet ur atk will beat out theres.

    neways im always trying to think of something new and im running out of things to think about. if u see something or figure something out let me know as well. Or even something u wanna try out, ill be more than happy to test.
     
  6. Kamais_Ookin

    Kamais_Ookin Well-Known Troll

    PSN:
    Kyooboona
    XBL:
    Kamais Ookin
    Me really looking forward to some Babao [​IMG] Yeah I'm corded, and I've foughten pelshi a few, decent connection, I don't mind dmpks, I will punish with a knee push bottle cut and counter their 2p with elbow or double sledge [​IMG]

    I sleep early on weekdays besides friday anyways so I can only play late at night on friday and saturday, if they're doing party during those days let me know.
     
  7. Darthminion

    Darthminion Well-Known Member

    I think more people have showed up on VF5 lately because of the VF5 release for the games on demand for xbox live.
     
  8. smince82

    smince82 Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    wyliewood
    XBL:
    xsmincex
    smello all its been a while. am finally back online but no live should be back on vf in 2 weeks gawwd i've missed it so much cannot wait. if anyone has a free month with there games or can spare let me know if not see in 2 weeks.
     

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