Throw Tiers! Who has the best throw game?

Discussion in 'General' started by ThisGuy, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. Slide

    Slide Well-Known Member

    Here you can have it, I'm going to give it to you, because you want it so bad. Whatever it is, you want it, you got it.

    Maybe it's the culture difference, but you guys never seem to understand anything people say to you guys sometimes and things need to be constantly spelled out.

    Why did manji even ask me if I ever tried guarding a rising kick?

    I mean, why? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

    61P+G is VERY important to Sarah's throw game, VERY important.

    I'm not even talking about catch throws here, almost all of them, cant even be escaped.
     
  2. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    Yeah, and I was wondering what the heck were you talking about since you can still do that throw no matter where you end up after the animation (as long as it isnt out of the ring).

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    I'm not even talking about catch throws here, almost all of them, cant even be escaped. </div></div>
    None of them can be escaped in VF5. Only their followups can occasionally be blocked (like with Akira, but Akiras /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif is unescapable in itself).

    As for the blocking thing, I was only semiserious. I was kinda hoping youd notice you were saying something silly.
     
  3. Jeneric

    Jeneric Well-Known Member

    It's because we're theory fighters.

    Or maybe you're the one not understanding things when they are implied? Just a theory. Because that is all I know.
     
  4. Slide

    Slide Well-Known Member

    None of them can be escaped in VF5. Only their followups can occasionally be blocked (like with Akira, but Akiras /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif is unescapable in itself).
    </div></div>

    Aren't Wolf's DM P+K and Vanessa's OS DM P+K catch throws? They can be escaped.

    I think the problem might be context going over the Atlantic. Because it really doesn't make sense, you make alot of posts I can agree with, and then sometimes I'm just going "WTF is he talking about???"
     
  5. Jeneric

    Jeneric Well-Known Member

    It's because you can't keep up, but we can take baby steps from now on.
     
  6. Slide

    Slide Well-Known Member

    You are the greatest poster and VF player this forum has ever seen of all times

    JDC

    Jeneric dot com


    overseas translation? ->

    Eat a dick.
     
  7. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    I still believe you guys fundamentally are saying the same thing - she's B tier for both of you, right? And now you're arguing for the exact place she has to occupy within that B tier, right? Whether she's before or after Jacky to be exact. Well, why don't we use the list manjimaru posted here to decide?

    I think manji kinda forgot about ground throws (which is what defines the top 4 imho) but it doesn't matter, 'cause nobody in B tier has any. Same with low throws. That leaves 7 precise criteria to base your analysis, imho if you take it point-by-point you can reach a blissful consensus really fast /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
  8. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    I don't really use either Jacky or Sarah but I put Sarah one notch above because of the catch throw and the low hit-throw(?) out Flamingo.

    Even if we're excluding stance-throws, I'd still say Sarah is one small tick higher than Jacky...

    Good thread for sure though!!! Very entertaining!

    EDIT: Brad has a throw that can basically kill you if you don't escape 2+G... Not sure what kind of throw that is technically but it can't be totally left out either. The one where he can knee you repeatedly in the Thai head-lock.
     
  9. Shag

    Shag Well-Known Member

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    Hit throws should not count imo unless they also work on block. (Goh's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif , Kage's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ) So I wouldn't factor Sarah's low hit throw.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">EDIT: Brad has a throw that can basically kill you if you don't escape 2+G... Not sure what kind of throw that is technically but it can't be totally left out either. The one where he can knee you repeatedly in the Thai head-lock. </div></div>
    That is his neck catch aka clinch. That is a hit throw so that doesn't count either.
     
  10. Gernburgs

    Gernburgs Well-Known Member

    Good points. I lose.
     
  11. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Slide would wreck you at this game lol. Slow your roll.
     
  12. Jeneric

    Jeneric Well-Known Member

    Probably, I'm just a theory fighter after all.
     
  13. Cozby

    Cozby OMG Custom Title! W00T!

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    I think people know Slide doesn't have trouble winning in VF... thinking outside of the box is a humongous offense.
    Play and think like the next guy. It's the only way.
     
  14. KrsJin

    KrsJin Well-Known Member

    Right, well then.
     
  15. Manjimaru

    Manjimaru Grumpy old man

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    I think some people should ease up /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif
     
  16. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    YOURE the box.
     
  17. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    I don't get it.
    Sometimes you have to box to win.
     
  18. Ash_Kaiser

    Ash_Kaiser Marly you no good jabroni I make you humble... Bronze Supporter

    Wrong thread, Tony.

    And another sensible thread descends into madness.
     
  19. HokutoNoCat

    HokutoNoCat Well-Known Member

    Nah mate. Don't forget we're europeans. Jeneric IS wrong. We can't argue with US superior people.
     
  20. Griever

    Griever Well-Known Member

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    And I really liked this thread. It was intelligent, quite unusual as of late. But all that is good must come to an end... too bad.

    /thread (R.I.P.)
     

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