Vane Oki and Anti-Rising Attack Strats

After sucessfully landing elbow rush ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ) if the opponent rolls to the side to avoid a heavy pounce DS /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif sometimes magically puts vanessa behind the opponent /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

 

This also worked for me a couple of times (against the same opponent though) after the throw, probably because it leaves the opponent off-axis.

I'm still trying to maneuver to the opponent's back using but if anybody thinks some other move might have better "teleporting" properties advice would be welcome. I tried jumping to actually hop over but it doesn't seem to recover fast enough to pressure the opponent afterwards.