VF5 community numbers after SCIV release

Now I am a big VF fan. I've been playing VF since the first one, but I became hardcore in it when the masterpiece that was VF2 came out for my beloved saturn. While even tho I skipped 3tb (I hated that evade button), I've pretty much killed every installment of VF with 5 being no exception.

But I am also a big SC fan too, owning every copy except Soul Edge, or whatever the psone version was called. I view SC differently than VF but I love it equally.

I think SC is second only to VF as far as gameplay mechanics, easily topping Tekken, DOA, or anything else. While SC is slightly more button masher friendly than VF, with its excellent countering system, it is very easy for an expert Xianghua player (such as myself), or any other expert player to crush any kind of weak, repetitive strategy. The game does a good job of differentiating noobs and veterans. If you know what is coming from your opponent, and you still get hit from it, even a throw, then yes, it is your own fault, with a few exceptions, such as SC2 Ralph's 6B,B,B and SC3 Sophie's near-game-breaking strength.

My only beef with VF is that without a countering/defensive expert character, such as Aoi, Akira, Vanessa, etc, it is waaaay more difficult to punish players who spam strategies or moves over and over. There are some matches where I see right through a player's strategy, but still feel helpless to retaliate, because I haven't figured out the exact right move to break through the strategy. It occassionally happens, but when it does, it infuriates me to no end, and we've all experienced it many times before.

Now, as far as the new SCIV gauge, whatever its called....it doesn't really make a difference to me. The developers stated that the gauge was created specifically for people who do little else except turtle throughout the entire match, waiting for long periods of time for an opening. It really does slow down the match and leaves overly-safe players no incentive to learn their char's moveset. I can understand why they put that gauge in, makes alot of sense to me. Myself, especially with Xiang or Cassandra, I find myself countering more than blocking, so I don't think the guage will affect me, unless I'm at risk of a defensive break if I block only 2-3 hits or some other rediculously low number.

As for me, when SCIV comes out, I will personally, take a few days off of work to play it, but you will still see me switching back and forth between VF5 and SCIV, all the way until SF4 comes out...

 

Everybody has their own opinion, I guess.

But yours is just wrong. That's all.







knahmean? lol

 

To say Xianghua = easy mode in SC is like saying the same thing to LeiFei or Shun in VF. Yes, Xiang has moves like great wall, and down-forward b that give her advantage in alot of situations, but she has nothing that cannot be taken down by a good player. she is far from an Akuma, I don't see her banned in any tourneys.

I only recently heard about some of her nerfs, and while I was kinda bugged out at first, I think some of it was doable, maybe even necessary. I they just didn't tone her down bad enough to throw her back a couple of tiers, like VF4Evo to VF5 Sarah, but like Sarah, Xiang will still be my favorite reguardless. I'm the type that doesn't like to switch team .

Yittish? The heck are you talkin about? Just say it out loud, and you should understand it. If you still don't get it, then don't worry about it.

 

WORSTPLAYER: It seems like you are deadset on trying to spread disdain about the SC and 1up-ing me than you are trying to prove a particular point as to why I am wrong. But if you don't like the game, that's fine; this is a VF forum, so I have nothing against that.

You say that she doesn't have any depth; well, once again, that's your opinion. I could list all kinds of moves and strategies to prove why you are wrong. I can re-state the countering system of SC, to which any player is free to utilize to punish predicted moves. Like I said, its your opinion, but you're not really into the game like that anyway, so I won't really take it seriously.

If you really want to find out her depth, try learning her moveset. I won't humor any kind of youtube-posting war. c'mon. really.

Slide: Yeah, actually you are right, but even after learning the character, the problem doesn't really go away completely. But its not like its a game-breaking problem or anything.

 

Worst: Well as for me, to be perfectly honest, I havent seen many tournaments. I've manly played alot with friends and people around my area. In my experience since the original SC, everyone was always picking people like Nightmare, Taki, Sophie, and Raphael, and was dominating with them, especially the last two in the latter games. Xiang was my first that I picked when I picked up the first game, and I stuck with her, though I also pick other chars.

As for my strategy with her, I used her blazing speed, various combos, and mix-ups to stay close to my opponent, back up to arms-length mid-range and poke when I was getting pounded, and pull out her dancing counters if I foresaw a move that my opponent was gonna pull, or her great wall if I saw anyone charging at me full speed with a B move. That's how I got around, I have to try and stay in my opponents face to win, because of her weak damage, but to stay in close (because someone like Taki, Cassandra, or just a really good player might be better at close-range)I had to learn her various feints, pokes and counters to stay safe.

To my experience, NOBODY picked Xiang for the simple fact that people thought she was a lame character. I would have actually been THRILLED to see another Xiang player! Well I loved her at 1st sight, and really sought out to find her beauty, despite everyone else; to which I found her knack to dance around people's moves. I always tried to mix it up; I never really tried to exploit many of her advantageous attacks...well except maybe great wall when I get cornered, but anyone who saw through that punished me swiftly.

To be totally honest, we had always thought she was a low-tier character compared to people like Ivy until three came out. It was clear as day that she was dominant in that game (even though many of her advantageous moves were actually TONED DOWN, like her down B+K spin move), but not nearly as Sophitia, to which players would dispatch me quickly. But those two were the only ones that were too strong in that game, so I don't see why people make such a big fuss, because nearly everyone was on even turf. So, oddly enough, I don't mind seeing her many moves she had since SC1 nerfed (AGAIN), as long as the roster stays balanced and they don't totally destroy Xiang's fighting style. I'd rather people put up a decent fight so I can have fun.

Maybe I will look for a video, lol. I won't try to defend myself with youtube videos, but I don't mind looking for a Xiang video if there is something you'd really like to see. I wish I could show you how I'd play, but maybe I can find a genuine player that doesn't like to spam 3B or whatever other stuff. I dunno I've never really looked before.

Sorry to turn my post into an "I love Xiang" bio, but I just wanted to show you where I was coming from



Slide: I totally agree with you there, actually. I initially thought you meant like I probably didn't know my char's moveset or something. There are many char-specific situations where you actually have to go through a tedious trial and error process to figure out which move will work against said tactic, yet they are few and far in between. It may be just growing pains, but it still very annoying.