VF5:FS Defensive Technique Compendium

What exactly do you use OMs for? I know you can do one as your opponent tech rolls to maintain ring positioning to an extent. I also know if your opponent freezes up behind their guard you can OM and buffer an attack to hit them from the side. I know they can be used in combos. Are there anymore situations to use an OM?

I've never heard of this one! What exactly does it do and how do you do it?

 

Offensive evade cancel does not mean offensive move, as far as I know. It's the act of using a dash at advantage to lose that said advantage and then do an evade.
I don't use this so I don't fully comprehend the uses of the technique but it does allow you to evade abare as you normally can't evade moves from advantage. If the evade fails because they are moving or holding G or something then you can cancel your own evade and attack again. There's a whole thread on this somewhere in the dojo general topics.

Fuzzy OS is probably that thing I sometimes use. It was a lot better back in vanilla 5 with clash but it's still kinda useful.
Basically you do a CD fuzzy, cancel it with G and then do an attack, launch preferable if your char has a good one for it (faster is easier).
What it does is it fuzzies under the throw and like usual you guard the mid. If they do a throw instead you whiff punish it.
It works because you are naturally pressing the G for the fuzzy and your launch does not come out if the opponent attacks. The catch is that this only works on if the opponent uses fast attacks. If they do a slow one then you are not in blockstun to prevent your own attack and you get CH'd.

 

Exactly. It is all about using blockstun to prevent your attack to happen even if you press it. It is risky because of slower attacks (you waste cca 15-16 frames and THEN you attack) but it is good for anyone who have slow reactions yet plays versus opponent who follow the "rules".

Yeah
http://virtuafighter.com/threads/offensive-evade-cancels-and-you.17064/
The point basically is you beat all "high level" answers your opponent may do; the downside is you lose to like every "lame" answer your opponent may come with.
Still, if you are avare about this technique, you can see like every single top japanese player to use it at least here and there.

 

Actually I just remember the the awesome @Chibiaya made a video/stream tutorial for the fuzzy guard OS

http://virtuafighter.com/threads/crouch-dash-fuzzy-option-select.16680/

Actually anyone knows how it looks like with Chibiaya? How is he doing?

 

Absolutley essenstial thread, many players I have come in contact with do not know much about theses major def. tech. This will help level up all those who wish to

p.s. Uni , did my shoutbox post have anything to do with this thread creation?, Cuz I was just talking about how good it would be to compile the major D's in one location...Good Job !

 

Lol why are you asking uni for, I made the thread! I didn't see or know about your message on shoutbox. What actually made me want to compile the major D's in one place (LOL) was @MakiLeSushi 's status saying that he incorporated ECD into his play and that defense is as important as offense, which made me consider how little I know on the subject of defense in VF and that led to the birth of this thread. So.. thanks Maki!

 

hehe, neat. Great Idea.

 

Question on Side Fuzzy (Gret Vid Myke )...

Is there a reason to avoid using 33~g as a side fuzzy, in the vid , you do 2g~TE, (right?)

anyway, what would be the advantage/disadvantage to using 33g instead?

 

33G as sidefuzzy gets tagged by mids. It does avoid the jab - probably for the same reason 2G avoids the jab - as crouching immediately transports you to crouch under high attacks.

For anything else however the 3 frame penalty applies and your CD starts 3 frames late. The vid has the usual sidefuzzy situation of -9 ST. In this situation using 33G can be hit by mids up to 18f (-9 + -3 from ST penalty + -6 from minimum CD).

Using 2G you don't put yourself at that risk. The only thing needed to crouch is under the UB then return to yutori.

 

About side fuzzy i'd recommend doing 2~7\2~9G(+P)
First cause i find it easier (but that's might be just me) and 2nd cause you're turning 1 frame faster

Also don't forget that at -9 ST 2P becomes unblockable

 

@Myke Sure you can put this up on the wiki! It will be the best place for it.

I assume a copy will be put on the wiki, will I still be able to edit the information of that copy from time to time with new stuff I find and make changes and/or additions?

 

BTW @Myke was that a strider cosplay in the video? If it was i will follow you forever

 

Awesome thread @Strider786, and props to @Myke and all who contributed. There's still heaps I don't know enough about the game it seems!

BTW, does Taka's weight/general slowness factor make any difference here? I think I read somewhere that his crouch is 1 frame slower than everyone else but I'm not sure how correct that is.

 

You can not fuzzy at -3 but only at -2 with taka. You can not crouchdash fuzzy at -5, but at -4 only with Taka.
Basically means that except after blocking enemy P / eating their PK you can not fuzzy in any general situation