VF5 Goh Thread

As for 6p+k+g, I haven't found that much use for it except sometimes to escape from a bad situation. For example, if the forward 270 throw gets broken, even though you are at even frames with the opponent, you are left side turned. I sometimes roll away if I'm scared and have very little life. If it went under mids, it would be much more useful (maybe too useful?).

 

Well you might want to use it against canned combos or in cases where you can read an opponent well.

One easy example is Lei Fei's roll from one of his stances. From that roll he's got either a throw or a funny jumping mid kick combo that flops for additional combo damage. 46k will beat both of his options by either sabaking the kick or beating the throw. Other instances are of course against Sarah's flamingo, Pai's flying swallow kicks, vanessa's fast lunging kick that stomach crumbles, etc. If you can read your opponent well, 46k becomes one of your best friends.

 

I use Goh's roll when someone TRs or after a throw escape. It's a pretty good move to use to set up his Basara or any throws, I've found. A lot of people freeze up when they see the roll.

and his sabaki mid-kick is really really good. It's not only a sabaki but it's a decent mid-range attack. I use b, d/f+P [hit], backdash, b, f+K a lot because a lot of people will try to LP you if Goh's low chop hits. Granted, f, f+K and b+K do more damage, but the latter pushes them way out, and the former is a little too slow IMO. after the low chop hits I also try f, f+P+K on occasion.

 

umm.. how do I go into Tsukami??? I'm in the dojo mode and I don't know how to use Tsukami, please help.

never mind, now I know, lol..

 

Sorry if this is a dumb question but this move was not in VF4:Evo and it is not in the list of new moves for VF5.

I think the command is 66P+K. Was this from Final Tuned? It's like an overhead mid punch. What is this? It's in the ver.B command list. Good move?

 

Not sure where it came from, but it's a decent attack if used sparingly... I've found that it's shorter range and long recovery time leaves you way too vulnerable, 66+K would be a better answer. On MC, I think it's a bounce-floater.

Newport News, my father-in-law lives there. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

what does 66+k mean?

 

Look at your numerical pad.

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oh i see. thanks.

 

Ah haha I'm actually in northern VA now I just go to college in Newport News. It's just that I finally got to play VF5 and I did 66P+K randomly by accident and I'm like "what the heck is this move?" lol

 

hum? /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif's been there since evo...
Check the movelists, it's right there.

I never used it much, but it's supposedly usable as combo ender for slamdown on certain occassions (at least it says so in one of evo's tutorials). /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif creates slamdown on open stance and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif for closed stance (you need to be close though), if I'm not mistaken. Of course when you're up against a competent techroller this doesn't matter anymore.

 

Well, not really. Evo 66P+K isn't even a more regardless of the one combo it is used in, at least beyond version A (why did they remove crumple?!).

 

The move has been completely changed in VF5. In Evo/FT, it was a very short range move used primarily in combos. In VF5 it can be used as combo starter with short-middle distance and used to refloat opponents.

 

ohhhhhhhh

in evo his 66P+K looked like the second hit of his 6PP right?

animation is totally different now...

 

Well similar motion, he just looks more badass doing 6PP.

 

Every character needs a patently useless move. In Evo, Goh's was /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. In VF5, I guess it's now /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif.

 

Zenpou Kaiten Ukemi

The roll can be used after knocking down the opponent close or after throwing the opponent and they land close to you. However, you are giving up the CHANCE of 2p+g_3p+g_3p at this range. Keeping all this in mind, you need your recovery time from your previous move to be decent, so you can dash in towards the opponent and apply roll. I have not tested out which body posture (ex.face up legs away) works properly, but I know a few of them work after goh's throws and kockdowns. This move keeping in mind imho is used only for opponents that you know will RISING ATTACK against you and you can read it coming early, so a whiff can be baited. Also, you might be able to roll after your throw has been broke leaving you sideturned to escape from a guessing game, but I haven't tested this out yet. When I get some freetime I will test these out and post back up some ideas and setups. This move in general is not useless, but I agree it maybe hard to find it's uses. If you find something in the meantime I encourage you to post up as well, thanks.

Peace ^-^

 

46P+KPP is mid,high,high and 46P+KP6P is mid,high,mid
4K does not seem to cause crumple even on major counter
counterhit 1K does not yield a free crouch grab anymore =[ oh well didn't use it much anyway but now it just sucks

just wanted to point some things out since I checked yesterday

 

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Also to note, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is throw guaranteed on block, so it's not good to overuse it.

 

I think they may even get guaranteed P if they block it if the frame data for verB applies...

is 4K half circular? I've seen it stepped but I'm hoping it tracks at least one side...