VF5 Goh Thread

Sadly, 4k is not half circular. It has one use and one use only - if your opponent has his back to the wall, you can use it to make them slam against the wall and get a huge damage wall combo. Otherwise the move is pretty useless.

 

I wouldn't say it's useless. Does well when you need a little space as it pushes back even on block.

 

4K is a great move imo. Like resist says, it pushes back on block so countering it can be tough for some characters, and on hit it pushes back even more, so you can get a wall slam or a ring out. Plus it puts someone in good range for f, f+K.

 

I just read in the black book thread that 66P+G is unbreakable now. Is that for real? Cause I like that...I'll give up some damage for that any day...though I never played FT in the first place

 

The problem being, even on CH, 4k only gives you a +6 advantage, which means that any character can beat your 66k with a punch. All of Goh's good flows on a +6 advantage are close range, but the 4k pushes the opponent too far to follow up effectively.

Like I said, the only good use is for wall combos (or ROs I guess).

Why would you ever want a character far away if you're playing Goh? Goh is only a threat when he is close.

Also, 66p+g is unbreakable, which is definitely good stuff. But it's hard to get enough mileage out of it generally. If you're really afraid of getting your throw broken, just go for 62p+g. It will give you a little bit less damage, but you can 0 frame throw it.

 

between 3P+G, 33P+G, and 43P+G which one yields the highest guaranteed damage? is a down attack guaranteed after 3P+G?

also according to the verB frame data his 66P+G can be broken...I'm hoping that's a mistake =[

 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you ever want a character far away if you're playing Goh? Goh is only a threat when he is close.</div></div>

Actually, this is move is a great answer if your close game is being rendered useless by an opponent. There are certain situations where I just get pummeled by an opponent at close range due to them guessing right, this move will ensure a bit of distance (even on guard) and let me take advantage of Goh's ranged sub-game.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is a down attack guaranteed after 3P+G?</div></div>

Nope. I've missed many times. With that...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">between 3P+G, 33P+G, and 43P+G which one yields the highest guaranteed damage?</div></div>

33P+G has a guaranteed down punch for an extra 12 damage for 52 total points, or you can go into the low throw guessing game for a possible total of 70 points. It's a bit of an unorthodox style, but it can work pretty well if your opponent isn't expecting it.

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so 33 is still the best eh?

wonder if anyone knows the answer to my other question...

 

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the movelist for VF5 ver.B says it can be broken with 6P+G which is why I'm wondering if that is a typo or if it was made breakable again in ver. B

http://virtuafighter.com/commands/index.php?chara=goh&ver=5b

 

It has to be a typo.Goh is God.*LOL*(i have no idea what i'm talking about).

 

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someone had said that 1k mc doesn't give a free low throw anymore? i've gotten it to hit, and have seen a few vids from japan where the goh player gets it off no problem... can they 2p out of it or something?

 

Should still work, Goh gets +12 on MC with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

 

It was me who said that but I could have been wrong. Basically I went on training mode and tried it out and they were out of range of the low grab, I'm not sure why I just assumed it wasn't guaranteed anymore because of the range.

*still doesn't have the game*

Also got a question...ice said on page 5 that the knee is uncounterable on block but when I tried it they still get a free throw. same for 33P+K...can't duck a throw after it is blocked

what I don't understand is that if 336P+K is -9 on block like the frame data says, how come I can't duck a throw if throws are 12 frames now?

 

It takes 7 frames to duck (6 if you use crouch dash instead of just ducking)

So you're in 9 frames of disadvantage + 7 frames to duck = 16 frames before you're in ducking state, so the opponent's throw which is 12 frames will grab you before that

 

You can't duck or crouch dash a throw if you are at -7 or worse. But you can attack out of a throw. The knee is uncounterable.

 

so you mean that after a blocked knee you can hit them out of a throw but you cannot duck under it?

 

Correct.