VF5 Goh's Black Book combos & other stuff

Re: VF5 Goh's Black Book combos & other stuff

Its a close stun only combo against all weight.

Stomach crumble -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> shoulderram will do more damage on lighter characters. The black book combos for stomach crumble still do more damage.

Hey congrats for being in the game!

 

Re: VF5 Goh's Black Book combos & other stuff

Great posts, danny. Thanks /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Re: VF5 Goh's Black Book combos & other stuff

Hey Danny, I'm not sure this one actually works on everyone anymore. I've hit stomach crumple on El Blaze, and out of habit, attempted to do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, and it whiffs every time. Have you been able to hit this?

 

Re: VF5 Goh's Black Book combos & other stuff

For Blaze, it only works in close stance. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif will totally whiff on open stance.

 

Re: VF5 Goh's Black Book combos & other stuff

Ahh, ok... thanks for the clarification! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Found a neat combo while I was mucking about with Goh.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (Normal Hit) -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif for 67 pts

Works on all characters both stances

On major counter it does 79pts of damage.

The /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif has to be done instantly. If you're late with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif it may connect but you get 54pts of damage.

You can change the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif for /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif for an extra pt in damage.

But it only works in closed stance on all characters

 

I like the arrows ->
...may have to copy that technique for Sarah's wiki... =)

 

I found a little thing for the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif combo:

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif//forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

works not only on Shun, but also on Akira, Lau, Goh, El Blaze, Lei, Jacky, Eileen, Brad, Jeffrey, Wolf... which leaves only Pai, Sarah, Vanessa, and Lion out.

The trick to do this combo on characters other than Shun is to slightly delay the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif in the combo, so that when the character is punched with the following /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, he or she floats the same way Shun floats after bounce without delay.

NOTICE, the timing allows also for the rest of the chars to float the same way after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, but it happend to me randomly, strangely, and did not allow for any more hits. This refers only to Sarah, Pai, Vanessa, and Lion.

I always wanted to say this: Myke, please correct the Goh's combo board on wiki /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

This may sound very noobish of me, but what do the arrows mean? Is that just the sequence I push the buttons in?

And what does (mc) mean?


Hmmm, found a decent combo messing around in Dojo.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif does 52 damage. 57 against a wall.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif does 78 pts.


and another few found...

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif does 58 pts.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif does 62 pts.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif does 86 pts.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif does 62 pts.
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif -> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif does 90 pts.

 

Hey, It's good that you are experimenting in DOJO.
However, the combos you listed are not always guaranteed. When tryin to find some combos, set the CPU opponent to roll, or get up in place in fall recovery section in DOJO.
This way you'll be sure that a combo is in fact a combo, 'cause while playing with a living opponent, you can be sure they are going to get up every time it's possible.

Also, even if they don't get up, the ground grab has only 50% of succeeding, so it's not really guaranteed either.

 

Yeah I've noticed that people will hop up any chance they get. Most of those work fairly well except the grabs, which people roll out of most of the time. The computer gets completely domo'd by the 90 pt move.

 

The arrows imply the sequence of button presses, like you thought.

MC is a major counter, meaning you've interrupted your opponent's attack with an attack of your own -- it grants your attack a damage bonus, increased launch height (if the attack is a launcher), etc.

mC is a minor counter, meaning you've landed a successful attack during the opponent's "cool down" frames after he has whiffed an attack and is unable to block. You'll receive a 25% damage bonus for mC attacks.

 

are ground throws guaranteed after some of those combos? cuz dojo says so.

 

thats cause the dojo will count some things as combos if the opp doesn't do anything. set the cpu to recover from falls and to get up the quickest. Also set the cpu to struggle out of staggers. To see what are true combos.

 

sucks. but thx.

 

I was testing this on Dojo mode:
46P, P, 6P+K.P - the last hit is techable
46P, P, 6P+K, Crouch Throw - kills side tech

Thing is, I heard from my friend that the Crouch Throw will not trigger at all if the opponent side tech and then guard. Is this true?

 

Quickrise p+k+g recovers from a standing position.
Techroll 8/2p+k+g recovers from a crouch position.

If opponent holds down after a QR to crouch under a throw, they will eat your throw. In this situation they must do an attack or ETEG.

If opponent holds guard after a TR to guard an attack, they will eat your low grab. In this situation, if they ETEG your low grab whiffs, if they attack, they will MC you.

 

Thanks for the insight Danny but I do need further clarification.

So you mean after a TR, you can actually still ETEG or Attack In Time?
Isn't there a recovery time where you are still considered crouching?