VFDC VF5FS Command Lists

Corrected, and thanks!

Bit of history, back when I was first creating the Command Lists for VFDC I had some discussions with (then moderator) @akai around the presentation of information. He proposed an idea of grouping commands in a hierarchy, so any children commands (follow-ups) will be "contained within" the parent commands (the lead-in).

Possible ways to present this was by either having collapsible/expandable groups (with +/- buttons to interact), or showing the children visually indented under the parent. At the time, I was never entirely sold on the value this might provide and/or didn't have time to implement properly. I think one of the issues was figuring out what to do when sorting by a particular column (say, Damage) because the grouping/containers would now no longer apply.

Having said that, I do have a list of new features for the next major upgrade to the site, so I'll definitely include this one for a another look. Thanks!

 

Sorry I missed this correction!

Just looking at it now, you say (charge) gives an addition 6 frames advantage over, I'm assuming, the regular , right? If so, then the numbers you provided don't quite add up? The frame data for shows:

Grd: -9 | NH: -8 | CH: +3

So, an additional 6 frames from (charge) should put these at:

Grd: -3 | NH: -2 | CH: +9

But above you wrote that both Guard and NH are -2? Can you confirm?

So, just to be clear, when you say "this move" you're referring to the regular , right? The RCH data is missing from the Command List so I'll add that too. And, just confirming, when charge cancelled at the fastest timing, the RCH is also boosted by 6 frames to +1.

 

Thanks for confirming @jimi Claymore and I've now updated Pai's from (charge) with a note specifying the additional 6 frames.

Not sure if you're referring to Pai specifically, but there are characters with +frames granted on RCH. For example, Kage's and .

 

I remember those discussions!

Some additional property notes that I think would be good to add to Pai's command list:

- Senchuken - staggers against both side crouching and back-turned crouching opponents. (Juicebox on Twitter)

(while standing) - Hi'en Tenshinshou - staggers against both side-turned and back-turned opponents on normal or counter hit.

- Soukasui - Add to Notes section: recovery counter hit -5 (jimi form earlier post in this thread )

(back turned) - Haishin Kasui - Add to Notes section: recovery counter hit -3

 

Thanks @akai, Pai's command list has now been updated. Unfortunately, the data for stagger vs side/back turned crouch had to be captured in the notes, as this was too specific to add into my magical side-turned-calculations-with-(some)-exceptions command list data algorithm.

 

@Myke just a minor correction for
(while standing) - Hi'en Tenshinshou - it staggers against both side-turned and back-turned opponents, not just crouching.

 

Lei's Kakushu Suigeki :
In the note section it mentions Kyo Shiki transition, NH: +6, CH: +6. I believe that is a typo/error from the Masters Guide.

Fastest command input to Kyo Shiki transition will reduce recovery by 10 frames.

So normally, on G: -6 NH: -3, CH: +1.
fastest input on G: +4 NH: +7 CH: +11

 

On my android phone, selecting previous version command lists works fine. Can you provide some more information or screenshots?

 

I just tested it on iOS ver 15.2.1 using the Safari browser, and it works as expected. Here are some screenshots:


On your mobile, from the main Commands list page scroll all the way to the bottom to view the available past versions.


After selecting, say, VF4FT you'll be taken to the character select page for that game version, as indicated in the title.


Finally, selecting a character will then show you the command list for that character in that game version.

There might be something else happening on your device that unfortunately I can't help you with.

Simply drag-and-drop your image(s) into the message window, or use the "Upload a File" button at the bottom of the message window next to "Post Reply".

 

What do you see when you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page?

 

I don't know if it's been noticed but the titles for the previous version title are currently showing the smilies where it's ver B. Or maybe it's just me. I like it though. B)

 

Can you share a screenshot? I'm not exactly sure where you're seeing that!