What Future Fighting Styles Would U Like To See In The VF Series

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Kain Said
BTW all you guys know that Muay Thai and BJJ are the only martial arts that actually work in real life right? All your Jeet Kune Do counterattack stuff you're talking about is BS.

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So you want VF5 to only have 2 characters?

 

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Cloud said:

So you want a game with just two characters?

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Of course not. I was just referring to the guys who are starting to talk about Wushu, JKD, and all that other crap as though it actually functions in the real world. VF is VF and we all love it, but it's not real and those styles don't work in real life.

 

JKD is very functional. Period.

 

What is JKD exactly? It can be either very functional (since in essence its not so much a particular style as a method of training, studying, etc. that incorporates almost (if not all) martial arts that each practicioner either excels, or could excel at. Also, why should any particular style / art be any better than any other (other than say straight boxing or some other limited style usually working pretty badly against more diverse styles that incorporate grappling and what not). And how is counterattacking bad? Why doesn't it work in any art except kickboxing / BJJ?

 

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Kain said:

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Cloud said:
Also, I Said before in a couple of posts that Goh should have the GUARD being a BJJ character.

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Uh, Goh is Judo through and through.

BTW all you guys know that Muay Thai and BJJ are the only martial arts that actually work in real life right? All your Jeet Kune Do counterattack stuff you're talking about is BS. Sorry to burst your bubble. I can provide a library worth of resources and proof if anybody really needs it.

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Wait, wait wiat wait!
So all other styles dont work in reallife? Or did i miss something else in the intention of this post? /versus/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

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Kain said: BTW all you guys know that Muay Thai and BJJ are the only martial arts that actually work in real life right? All your Jeet Kune Do counterattack stuff you're talking about is BS. Sorry to burst your bubble. I can provide a library worth of resources and proof if anybody really needs it.

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Hapkido, Kyokushenkai Karate, Box, Sambo and many others. It depends on you, how do use your martial art. Any martial art can be lethal.

I guess Hapkido, Capoeira, Tae kwon do and something like Sambo can make really spectaculous chars.

 

Kain you're a moron / fanboy.
Look to history for your reference and wars as the subtitle. A hard midkick is a hard midkick wheter the practitioner does "study" it under thai, taekwondo, wushu or karate is of minor importance compared to the physique and speed of the person delivering it.
A BJJ practioner can get KTFO as anybody else, ask Fedor Emilienko for reference or better yet let him demonstrate on you. I'm so tired of these things...

 

Ive been behind a bit on this thread but heres a couple of my thoughts . . . , From what I hear Capoeira, TKD, Wushu is not very practical in no rules fighting, but thats what I heard. I guess TKD since being implemented in several fighting games can work in its philosophy . . . wushu, pai is sorta got that flash going -_-;; . . . Capoeira a definate no no for me.

What I would like to see is a martial artists based on this guy Masutatsu Oyama This man is a legend in his own right.

popular references to the legend
references

interestingly enough going through the site more Mas Oyama shows his appreciation for TaiChi http://crane.50megs.com/index6j.htm

with a great quotable quote every VFer should take into their fighting philosophy

"These tears are not tears shed for losing; they are tears of appreciation. Appreciation that my Karate still has an infinite amount of space to grow. It is a space that is opened up by none other than the chinese martial art called Taiji".

basically i read that as, there is no loss in battle lost, only knowledge learned.

 

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Kain Said
BTW all you guys know that Muay Thai and BJJ are the only martial arts that actually work in real life right? All your Jeet Kune Do counterattack stuff you're talking about is BS.

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The Gracies beating Team Japan this weekend showed that BJJ is still the shit. If Mirko beats Fedor in November, then we're going to see how well Kickboxing stands in the real world.

 

Mirko will get killed by CropCop, period.
You have a cap of the Bushido Pride event?

 

Honestly i think BJJ is overrated because MMA has something called "rules". Why most martial arts dont work well in MMA is you can really make people submit to a hand chop pointed at the neck or something in that effect. In marital arts its death or accepting the fact of defeat, no real submissions.

Essentially you can really say that BJJ is the best suited martial arts for the likes of UFC and PRIDE FC, but in a life or death battle, i think it ranks lower much lower.

 

i served two ears in omon.(russian swat).
we had kyokushenkai karate for kicking and punching
and hapkido for throws and other bonebraking stuff.
and as i still alive, i can say that two martial arts work in real life.

 

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Shadowdean said:

Mirko will get killed by CropCop, period.

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Mirko is Cro-cop, "Cro-cop" is his nickname in the MMA world. I think they call him that beacuse he was a police officer back in Croatia. Thats how you know he's a tough ass.

As for styles and which one is better, I think it all depends on the practicer of that form. Say for example, that someone is a TKD master (studied all their life), then say his opp has been studying BJJ just for a couple of years. If the two meet on the street and a fight occurs, its pretty obvious that the TKD master is going to win; especial with the knowledge of certain danger if their taken down. I say the TKD would win because they would have more experience and posses more weapons in defending their self.

Its like Kurenai said, it all depends on your skill level of your art and the skill level of your opp. Some say that JKD is useless. Then one day, a JKD master could come around with a skill level that is unmatchable by anyone else in any other style. This master would defeat the worlds best fighters and turn our heads. This is happening right now with kickboxing. Kickboxing has been dominated for years in MMA competions, then comes Mirko Crocop. His mastery of kickboxing is turning everyone heads and showing that kickboxing is effective against grapplers and JJ artists when we all thought it wasn't.

 

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TP_KiwE said:
A BJJ practioner can get KTFO as anybody else, ask Fedor Emilienko for reference or better yet let him demonstrate on you. I'm so tired of these things...

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Which BJJ Practicioner did Fedor Emilianenko KTFO? He couldn't finish Nogueira. Regardless, Fedor is a boxer/wrestler/sambo hybrid who trains MMA.

 

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Cloud said:
The Gracies beating Team Japan this weekend showed that BJJ is still the shit.

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No that showed that the Gracies are boring pieces of shit since every fight went to a decision, and it also showed that "Team Japan" was composed of talentless no names and jobbers - but we all knew that already.

 

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Shadowdean said:

Mirko will get killed by CropCop, period.

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Haw haw haw.

 

<font color="red">I seriously agree on the fact that there needs to be another hard hitting palm and fist fighter.</font>

 

The Martial Art I wouldn't mind seeing is an Irish Canadian one:
Qu Fon Shuan, the Way of Barhouse Fists!

> Lots of roudhouse punches
> Learning to fall across tables covered in beer steins
> Training in the art of correctly breaking beer bottles to make for the most effective weapon! /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously though, despite Chinese styles being over-represented, I want a Jackie Chan style character who uses the Classic animal styles all at once, a' la Vanessa with her two styles!
As far as I know the Five classic styles (correct me if I'm wrong) are:

Dragon
Tiger
Crane
Snake
Monkey

Or perhaps two characters, one with Tiger/Dragon styles, and another with Snake/Crane styles

This is my first post, so don't kill me too much for my irreverance! (the item faqs are beautiful! I finally have Lei's Blind-Fold! Feel Nick Parker's blind fury!)

 

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Kain said:

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Cloud said:
The Gracies beating Team Japan this weekend showed that BJJ is still the shit.

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No that showed that the Gracies are boring pieces of shit since every fight went to a decision, and it also showed that "Team Japan" was composed of talentless no names and jobbers - but we all knew that already.

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I don't know what your trying to accomplish with this. I was just saying that with the Gracies winning showed that BJJ is still the style to beat. I was trying to help you out. Then you hit me by saying the Gracie style of BJJ is boring and that Pride lined them up with no namers so the Gracies could get a win. Damm Dude. No one that fights in Pride or trains with Yoshida is talentless. Its a fucking privilege to be in Pride event and you have to be one of the best to be in it. Come on dog, don't make statements like that. If you wrote that shit in Sherdog, they would tear your head off.

I know you seen and studied a lot of MMA events, but why you trying to tear into me. One post you said that BJJ is one of the few styles that actually work. Then you take a post that was written to help out your statement, and reverse its intention. /versus/images/graemlins/shocked.gif That hurts both of us. I mean your contradicting yourself, saying that BJJ isn't a good style or that the Gracies suck and that I was stupid to agree with you.