Wtf with all that abare madness on Xbl?

Hey thanks everyone for the feedback. I figured it was good strat. I mean, the whole deer in the headlights type thing. It is fun dashing them out. hahaha

 

Ok I'll stop acting like an ignorant noob /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
I just want to +1 that post.
Akira is indeed a tough guy that does big dmg but he needs a lot of work to get all this in the right way. SDE is an awesome move, as many others, but as usual with Akira moves it asks a lot of inputs and a good buffers skills.

So yeah staying on top with defense (Fuzzy, ETEG/TEG, sabakis/reversals), having a good offense (lots of buffering needed to SDE and to perform bread and butter crouched moves like single palm, shoulder ram, double palm), performing your combos which are often hard, and having fluid movement/stepping is kinda hard. But that's why we like Akira I guess, hard work/high reward char.

 

Intentional Abare makes sense. Abaring to replace defense is another story.

 

wouldn't that still be an intentional use of abare?

 

Yes actually, I expressed myself awfully (don't forget I'm a frog man). What I meant is:
-Using "casual" abare when you know you'll beat opponent next move (when you know your opponent patterns for exeample) = ok
-Abaring because you are forced to use it since you don't took the time to learn defense= bad

The second strategy will work on beginner to intermediate players tho ...
But I think you've perfectly understood on my first post /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

 

lol.

 

Easy to laugh of someone who does not write in his native language he /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/tired.gif

 

I wouldn't think so unless it's just meant to be spam like not hit-checking Akira's 3PKG,P and just trying to fish for a CH with the follow-up.

 

Just face it people abare is here to stay... so what are we going to do about it? I just hope people understand that the MAJORITY of this abare stuff they do will not work offline. I purposely try to let people see that they are abare-ing to see if they will stop, but they never do. Elbow hit = 2P or PK from them most of the time... 2P hit = 2P of their own or PK or PPP or worse. Sometimes I can throw like 3-5 standing jabs(all counter hits) before a purpose will consider just holding the G button for a moment. Even worse I have had cases where I throw like 4 elbows(all counter hits) in a row just to see when they will decide to hit that G button yet again.

It's crazy how people never think to play defense for just 1 single moment. I think people are only abare-ing to avoid being thrown but if they were paying attention they could see that in most situation an attack follows and not a throw... it's sad that people think fuzzying a throw is being defensive. that's just 1 possibility out of like 30(exaggerating here because I don't know the exact number) or more defensive tactics.

 

hey cat, i wasn't laughing AT you, ge said something funny and i laughted, and i posted my response as u were posting urs, so i didn't know that you were a frogman, i never make fun of frogmen---toadmen, yes, frogmen, no.
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Np mate I reacted like an emo haha !

 

Great post and I for one would love to see 8 frame throws come back and clash vanish for vf6. Honestly, I feel it would solve alot of the situations where people feel comfortable and not threatened from a MC P.

I can dream..

 

I quite agree. I have never liked clash. I'm likely in a minority here but...

 

VF5 makes me abare more. Against strong players with characters with mystifying strings like Shun, brad, Eileen, Vanessa, Lei, and Sarah I will attack more from small dis because the gamble is better that waiting for a move that even if I block it because I correctly guessed a coming attack, I am still likely to get hit because I don't know my openings well with their wacky strings and stuff.

Of course against average players, I will play a little more conservatively because they are less likely to confuse me.

As far as weak players attacking from disadvantage repeatedly, I am all for it. Jab-----> Launcher Wheeee!!!!!

I don't even think it works online very well for them.

 

I don't think you are.

I'm not a fan of clash, 0f, and 12f throws.

 

Hmmmmm.....I like throw clashes and 12f/0f throws. It feels like it adds strategy. But i don't really have a reference point to base it on. It already feels like my throw game is OP versus most opponents, i can't imagine 6 frame throws!!!!! Anyone want to break down the effect this has on play for me? If not...i'll live.

 

Clash is fine for me... I don't find it to be that big of a deal, but having 8 frame throws would definitely put an end to this abare BS and make people realize that you can hold the block button for more than 1/2 a second. Zero throw can be annoying, but I think it's necessary especially against people with an iron defense.

 

I like clash. There are moves that don't throw clash if you want to reverse nitaku through a throw anyway. And besides, if there was no clash, then wouldn't people go even more abare when they could beat a throw with any attack as long as it wasn't guaranteed?

I like it that fuzzying is a rather strong options against throws most of the time (up to -6) thanks to 12 frame throws. As I see it throws are a weapon to be used against guarding and evading and they get the job done whether 12f or 8f. As it is in VF5 you don't have to either reverse nitaku abare or ETEG after getting anything blocked by opponent and that's good.

0-frame throws are fine in my book too. Creating an opportunity to "combo" into a standing throw is pretty nice and they are very strong against people who freeze up even momentarily at some point of a match. If something I would wish that 0-frame variants of throws would have longer escape windows after connecting.

I'm not trying to bash or flame or anything but I really don't see how going back to VF4 style throws would help the game or make it more strategic. Care to elaborate?