Yet Another New Wolf

It depends.

If your opponent PKs from backturn then use RAW-K ( /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif). If they block go for a throw.

Nothing is guaranteed (as far as I know) so you have to out think your opponent.

 

The main uses of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif are ringouts and wall combos (especially in R where a followup /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif sets up for some seriously big damage).

 

i usually use /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, or short shoulder, good near a wall.

you can sometimes get lucky with a turbo drop as they turn around for some big wall damage aswell

 

Yeah, I know those are the uses. It's just that sometimes I mess up a throw and get /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif by accident. So I want to know in this case, what's the best follow up, even if I didn't do it on purpose.

 

Basic attack/throw mixup should work well, maybe screwhook/throw not really sure haven't played Wolf in a while.

 

lately i have been using 1throw/catch throw to front/back push alot

lately ive been using 1K+G to much success, which does one or two things

it counter hits and i get an emerald frozion in or...
its staggers them and more often than not it leaves them backturned staggered

so i go for a 6p, if it doesnt crumple alot of people duck so i low throw after that.

however if people catch on they will duck the 1K+G
which leaves you with alot of good options, 3K/get in range 33P+K/66P+K/46P/low throw

also 3K+G will cause stagger and you can go for watever mix up you like, ive had success with the BT 2K follow up which will down them like counter62K to free ground throw

also burning hammer is cool to throw in everyonce in awhile, though chances of connecting are slim

 

FYI, if you have someone from back catch (also called change) and you push them forward, you are guaranteed a toe kick stunner. I'm pretty sure its the most guaranteed damage off the push, plus it hits them in the back for a special stunner animation. Looks awesome!

Also, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is guaranteed from the same situation. Follow up with /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif,/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (except against heavies)

 

yes the tks is awesome off the push and 46P+K is good too but im kinda bored with always using the same thing always like to try new stuff

 

Just dinged a new level (6th dan, yay), today. It's amazing how taking a break can help your game. Taking a break helped me "unlearn" some of my bad habits, like always going for /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif into low throw after a stagger.

Anyways I think the biggest change for me was a change in mindset. I've always through of Wolf as a throw character, and I think I was wrong about that. In other words, I would always try to go for a GS or some other big throw.

Now I've realized (that for me at least), Wolf is not about landing throws. Wolf is about landing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif and other big mids, like /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif. The throws are only there for opponents that start getting scared of his big mids.

Thinking that way had really helped me win matches I was losing before. Essentially, my default "thing to do" is to go for a mid instead of a throw. They tend to hit a lot because people are always trying to avoid his big throws. I now use throws more sparingly to punish people for blocking.

 

Another question here -- does the toe kick stunner have a range? I find that in training mode I can do it when I'm close to my opponent, but if I'm hitting with just the tip of the foot, then I can't seem to do it.

Does the toe kick stunner land at all ranges that the toe kick lands, or is there a range where the kick will hit but the follow up throw is not possible?

 

toe kick stunner always had range issues. it's only consistent up close.

 

Sometimes after change and Push, I do Bounding Hammer so even if blocked Im -2.

 

Hello everyone,

Rising this thread from the dead. I've recently rediscovered VF5, and am appreciating again the fun, depth, and complexity of this game.

I've started recording some of my games with friends.


In any case, I have a couple of dozen match vids up, and plan on adding more. I've created a youtube channel here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/zassSRK?feature=mhum

I'd love to find recent match vids of VF5 wolf players. I realize most of the world has moved on to FT and FS, but if there's anyone still playing regular VF5, I'd love some wolf tips! I've been looking for Chief Flash vids, but they are few and far between

 

lol, i think only japan has moved on, as the rest of the world never got either of those games.

 

Couple more videos up. I got to play against a strong pai player (wasted wish). I also got to play against one of my Wolf idols, Brisal73!! Unfortunately I didn't have my recording equipment but it was a major, major beatdown. Hopefully I can play him again soon

 

According to the videos, you were not able to 2p against Pai's 9KK at +5 probably due to lag. His screw hook is the fastest mid which is recommended to use more. 66P+K is not that good actually for close range, also DMPK would stop building your defense when you over rely on that move.

 

cool vids zas i use wolf also .

 

The wrong way.... Nobody gives a fuck if you use crutches either.. You been trolled lmao!!!

 

LOLOL good to see some things have not changed. sup SDS!

 

you're a fucking idiot son!